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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #63 on: Monday 05 October 09 08:47 BST (UK) »
Are you in touch with Cadoganpier, Chris?

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=409172.msg2765921;topicseen

and
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,407139.msg2750769.html#msg2750769

Hi Shaun,

Yes, very much in touch with Cadoganpier as he is my brother and was given the job of finding out a bit more on the military side, but we will try to keep the info on this thread as we seem to have covered that side now and back onto the original topic.

All the best,

Chris
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #64 on: Monday 05 October 09 09:20 BST (UK) »
Yippee,
             I got all excited an  hour ago,then couldn't get on Rootschat......
What do think of this?
1871 census for Woolwich,Royal artillery cottage.
Patrick Bourke head married age 36 corporal RA born Ireland
Maria wife age 34 born Ireland
William son age 12 born straits of Malacca
Helena daughter age 7 born straits of Malacca.
Sarah dau' age 2 born Cape of good hope
Kate dau' age 5 mths born Ireland.

RG10/775//43/page 16.
This  may be him!!   1861...RG9/552/page 6.
IGI extracted entry,I'm not sure but I'll post it.
Patrick Bourke marriage to Maria Mangan,Roscommon 1857!!

You are a star!

I can't see how this could not be our Helena as the Mallacan Strait is the stretch of water between Singapore and Malaysia and all the dates tally. So, now to Ireland (especially to see if the IGI entry can be backed up) and also I guess to try to see if Patrick and the family were in India coinciding with William (who, despite finding out masses of information about loads of other new ancestors, still remains as elusive as he was since the first post!)

Thanks again, could not have come this far without your input
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #65 on: Monday 05 October 09 11:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,
           loved doing it :) and can't wait to get further but, Ireland ??? ???
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #66 on: Monday 05 October 09 11:51 BST (UK) »
I can't see the Bourkes in India...And  thinking about it, there may be more children after Kate..
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />


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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #67 on: Monday 05 October 09 11:51 BST (UK) »
My brother has got a bit further with Frederick on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,409172.0.html

(Should all the threads be pulled onto this main one as there are 4 on the go now, not sure of the board rules or etiquette?)

There is a Patrick Bourke in London on the 1851 census which fits, but not convincing enough yet to say for sure. The Royal Artillery records are at Kew so looks like another trip to London at some point.
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #68 on: Monday 05 October 09 12:07 BST (UK) »
Nice one Chris....
                     Off you go to Kew then ;D
We've trawled the India sites over and over,why aren't the Bakers and Bourke's there!!
At least you know it looked like Grandad Patrick who started this Army tradition off..

Is the 1851 a soldier?     Don't forget to put Bourke in your list of names,you never know someone may be connected..
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #69 on: Monday 05 October 09 12:26 BST (UK) »
The 1851 record shows a 16 year old labourer born in Wicklow living with his three younger sisters, his widowed mother ( a char woman) in a slum area in the East End of London. Seems a long way from our dashing cavalry officers in India but has every reason to join up as a way to improve his lot. I guess the RA records would show who he was.
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #70 on: Monday 05 October 09 12:32 BST (UK) »
Ooooh,it's exciting isn't it?
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #71 on: Monday 05 October 09 12:39 BST (UK) »
IGI has a submitted entry for a Patrick Burke born 1835 Waterford,Waterford is what you meant I think....Anyway we can't count on the entry..
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />