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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #144 on: Monday 26 October 09 16:29 GMT (UK) »
How do we do that?

Also, I found an old thread on GenesReunited for someone looking for William Henry Baker (the one born in 1857) "William Baker b 1825 Tipton Staffordshire. Engineer (Royal Navy) although this isn't confirmed. in 1861 it states he's a Engineer Royal Navy, He did sail onboard the Bernese which sunk (written on christening record of son) His son William Henry Baker born in Bombay East Indies on 22nd May 1857 and was christened on 26 March 1859

and...."Cornelius Baker believed to be in the Gurkha regiment born approx 1802.

His son William Baker b 1826 believed to be in the Royal Navy went to the East Indies where his son also named

William Baker was born approx 1858 -

All originally from tipton Stafford"

And another post from the same person....

"His name was William Baker, and the 'son' was William Henry Baker.

I have traced the Baker line back to 1763 all born in England, except for William Henry Baker. I am trying to find out whether this son was his illigitimate child or an 'adopted' child. My gt grandfather was the brother of William Henry Baker, he is also a 'suspect' child. In that his birth was registered in England in 1860, but on 1 census it states he was born 'Sea' which means either at sea or overseas. Plus both of these boys had the features and colouring of Indian origin. As far as I can tell their sister's ancestors were all of English origin.

Their father was back in England by 1871 and remained here for the rest of hs life as did his family.

I understand that some went out their to work and I first thought he had something to do with the Train Company as he was an Engineer, but now I'm not so sure. I was wondering if the family had some family connection to India, hence why he was in the Indian Navy rather than the Royal Navy. "

BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #145 on: Monday 26 October 09 16:55 GMT (UK) »
WOW.......so the IGI with William H born 1857,Parents William Sarah could be that boy.
I'm not sure, all I know is people do lookups if they were on Ancestry we could look for them but, I don't think they are....Perhaps the request should go on the Sussex board...
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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #146 on: Monday 26 October 09 17:46 GMT (UK) »
IGI William born 1825 Tipton parents Cornelius and Elizabeth.....Cornelius married Elizabeth Smith 1822 West Bromwich.
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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #147 on: Monday 26 October 09 17:49 GMT (UK) »
1841 census West Bromwich...Ho107/978/book 7
Cornelius born 1801 engineer.
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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #148 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 10:10 GMT (UK) »
I have heard back from the lady who posted the info on GenesReunited. Until we can confirm the birth/parents of my WHB it is impossible to say for sure if there is a connection. I really need to get over to the British Library!
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #149 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Get thee to the library......tooooooooo many Bakers to be sure of anything..
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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #150 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 11:42 GMT (UK) »
There is nothing else for it, I am off there now, will report back later this afternoon....
BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma

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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #151 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Go, go, now..... ;D
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Re: India: Help please with Baker 1880's West Bengal
« Reply #152 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Well I only had a limited amount of time so I did not manage to find anything concrete. The most interesting thing I found was the death record for the William Henry Baker born in 1857 to William & Sarah.

I states that he was former "Chief Supt. GL Railway" and that his father William had been "Chief Engineer R & O Co." The place of death appears to be "Morar". The interesting bit is the date, 29 Jan 1909 which would fit with Cedric having to start school in England in May 1909. Still not conclusive though.....

I also found the baptism records for the daughters Laura and Mabel, which confirm WHB and Helena as parents and his profession as an engineer but not much else.

BAKER            Staffordshire, India, Bengal, (1880's)   
BROWNING    Kent      
LAMING            England, Dover      
SHEPPARD         England, Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Coventry, Warwickshire
BOURKE             Ireland (early 1800's) Merthyr, London, India/Burma