1911 By Subscription.

[Moonstar36]

Hi Spiderboy
Thanks for that....the Beano eh? I used to get that every Saturday morning as a kid...but that was the long dim and distant past...

amazing what you learn here!

Linda

[PaulineJ]

Aah! Probably a bit late with this information, assuming that it is the same policy as it is with the PayAsYouGo system. “You will not be charged if you look at a record more than once within the same session. However, if you leave the site, sign out, or your connection is interrupted, you will be charged to view the record again. We recommend you print or save any images or transcripts you may wish to refer to later.” Still never mind, by my reckoning you’ve only spent about 240 credits of this month’s quota.  On a more serious note it does illustrate how quickly they can be consumed doesn’t it.

So just save the images to "YOUR RECORDS". It's not as though you need to download them from 1911.
And UNLIKE flaming Ancestry you DON'T need credits to re-view them. I personally  like 1911's search facilities and presentation and I don't think that 1000 units/month is particularly harsh limit. (if that is the limit).


Pauline

[scriv2]

We can't save the 1911 records anywhere on site yet, Pauline... but yes, the answer is to download them to our computer straight away I guess.

As regards ancestry, when you take a subscription  to ancestry there is no limit at all to the number of times you view the image. It must be a 'pay and view' regulation that you mention.

[PaulineJ]

We can't save the 1911 records anywhere on site yet, Pauline... but yes, the answer is to download them to our computer straight away I guess.

As regards ancestry, when you take a subscription  to ancestry there is no limit at all to the number of times you view the image. It must be a 'pay and view' regulation that you mention.

On Ancestry, once your sub lapses, whatever is in 'Your shoebox' you have to pay/re-subscribe to re-view

[kerryb]

I think I agree with Pauline, 1000 a month should be quite ample, unless people are breaking the terms and conditions and doing thousands of lookups for other people and making money out of it!!!! 

Kerry

[LizzieW]

i did find after 4 hours that there is an advanced search facility on the FindMyPast site for the 1911.

For anyone else looking for the advanced search facility, click on whichever census you want to find someone and above the box for name etc. you will see 3 boxes, basic search which is the default search box you've just opened and then advanced search, click on that and you'll get a box asking for much more info, the 3rd box is search tips.  Click on that and you'll get what it says - search tips.   Have to say I've never used the advanced search.

Probably a bit late with this information, assuming that it is the same policy as it is with the PayAsYouGo system. “You will not be charged if you look at a record more than once within the same session. However, if you leave the site, sign out, or your connection is interrupted, you will be charged to view the record again.

I don't understand what you are saying.  I went back to the 1911 site and found some searches I'd done on the PayAsYouGo system and paid for and they are still available.  It cannot be because I've upgraded my FindMyPast sub, as when I tried to open a census image of someone where in the past I'd only looked at the transcript, I got a message saying I didn't have enough credits.
Obviously, now I've got the upgraded sub, I will do all my searches via FindMyPast.

Lizzie

[andycand]

Posted by: Moonstar36  Posted on: Today at 01:05:53 
....have been reading through the posts re subs....and whilst I pay for Ancestry and for Scotland's People and occasional use of 1911 census....do believe that at the end of the day this data actually belongs to us and it should all be free...
please dont get all upset but it is after all data all about us that we have given one way or another...
when i first started looking through and found that there were vast differences between what data you got, in various formats and from who - it all just struck me as another way to 'tax' us on finding out the data we had helped to compile...   

Hi Moonstar36

Virtually all data is available for free somewhere, for example you can access Scottish records at a number of locations in Scotland and the 1911 English Census is accessable at the National Archives in Kew (London) and a handful of other locations. What we are paying for is to be able to access such information from a distance. It costs a lot of money to scan, index, provide storage and access for the various documents which someone has to pay for. If its not the end user then it would be the British taxpayer. If you are fortunate to live locally to your research area then your costs may be minimal but thats not the case for people living some distance away, Australia in my case.

Andy

[scriv2]

I think I agree with Pauline, 1000 a month should be quite ample, unless people are breaking the terms and conditions and doing thousands of lookups for other people and making money out of it!!!!

Kerry

It all depends on how you do your research....

When it 'costs' 30 to view an image and 10 for the record, it is actually quite easy to reach 1000 when you are researching a large family and like to follow  your ancestors and their siblings (often several in those times) and offspring into 1911.

And if you like to arrange your research by census households, so you can see who is living where and who they are living with and who they are living next to.

And if you also like to see the actual page and not just a transcription, esp as we can now see the forms they filled in themselves.

And if you are trawling for a particular person and have the hunch that they are hidden in a street ....and then you don't find them, so have to look elsewhere.

I am obviously going to have to find a cheaper way of trawling the streets on site, but just wanted to point out that it can be very easy to reach 1000 through personal, I agree enthusiastic, research without having to defend against the accusation of abusing the conditions, making lots of money and doing 'thousands' of searches for others.

1000 credits = e.g. viewing 30 images and 10 households

[mc8]

In case anyone is unware National Archives have started rolling out the 1911 Census free at 7 centres in the UK.  This will be for about a year, maybe less if demand is high.  Unfortunately I cannot get to any of them.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/stories/337.htm

Also, regarding Ancestry, I did not know that it can be accessed free from any public library.

don't make a trip without checking first-both newcastle and manchester have already used up their credits-this from the manchester site

A set amount of free credits for the 1911 census have been provided by The National Archives at Manchester Archives and Local Studies. This has proved immensely popular , meaning free access in Manchester Archives and Local Studies will no longer be available from 1 October 2009.