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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Stewart


I finally got to see the entry and it's definitely McLergan. However, I gather that McLergan was a sept of the McLean clan:

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-ISLAY/2007-10/1192393619


I tend not to go into clans, etc. so this was news to me  ::)



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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 18:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, I really think that you might be on to something here. I too wasn't aware of the McLean/McLergan link. I found another thread where Sue Visser who has been involved with the transcription of many of the Islay BMDs confirms something similar:

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-ISLAY/2003-10/1066596270

I will go and look for the name McLergan now.
Many thanks once again.
Stewart
AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.

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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 December 09 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Came across your info while battering away at a brick in my wall. Interested in the Archibald McLean/ Annie Brown.
Annie's father might be the one that is sticking me. I have not been able to find any info on him. Did Mary Sinclair, her mother, die on 29/3/1856?

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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 December 09 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Islayboy and wlecome to Rootchat  :)

I'm wondering if it might be better for you to start a new thread/posting on Annie Brown as this one is quite old now.

I'll have a look to see if I can see anything  :)

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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 December 09 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stewart

I've found the death of Ann Maclean (m.s. Brown) in Port Charlotte on 29 March 1884, aged 73, widow of Archibald Mclean, Tailor.

Her parents were - John Brown, crofter and Mary, m.s. Sinclair, both deceased.

The informant was a neighbour - Archibald McLean



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Hi again  :)

I think this is info that you will find interesting  :)


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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 December 09 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Islayboy, the information on Mary Brown's (m.s. Sinclair) death certificate reads as follows:

Mary Brown, Widow, (female) died on March 29th 1856, 2.00 a.m. at Port Charlotte, Kilchoman, aged 92 years. Father: John Sinclair, Farmer (deceased). Mother: Mary Sinclair m.s. Clarke (deceased). Cause of death: Decay of Age. Burial: Kilchoman Churchyard. Charles Brown (son) informed.

I haven't been able to find out anything about Mary's parents but I have quite a bit of information on her decendents. Mary was one of my 4th Great Grandmothers.

Hope that the above information is useful to you.
Stewart
AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.

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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 December 09 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget, I have now had time to process the information you and others so kindly found for me and I've made excellent progress. ;D Documental evidence indicates that the family were using both the surnames of McLean and McLergan between the 1800s and 1850s but had standardised on McLean or MacLean by the 1860s.

I have come across another mystery that I wonder if you could help me with. I can trace Archibald's father, Alexander, through the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census records but can't find him in the 1871 census or in the death records. He was born about 1787 in Kilchoman parish and like his sons Archibald and John, was a tailor in Port Charlotte. If the information on his children's death certificates is correct then he was alive at the time of the death of his daughter Mary Brown (m.s. McLean) in May 1873 but deceased at the time of the death of his daughter Margaret McLean (m.s. McLean) in Jan 1879.

His first wife Margaret died before 1841 and his second wife Mary McLean (m.s. Brown) whom he married in 1842 died in Port Charlotte in 1862. However, I just can't find any trace of Alexander thereafter :(

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Stewart
AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.

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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 December 09 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi  :)

There's a death showing for an Alexander McLeargan, 1869, Kilchoman. Aged 84. This might well be him.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the fact that it didn't say deceased on Mary's DC.


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Re: Archibald McLean of Port Charlotte, Islay
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 December 09 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Stewart

Did you find anything more on John Brown, husband of Mary and father of Ann? Isalyboy seems to need help on this line:




Annie's father might be the one that is sticking me. I have not been able to find any info on him.




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