George Morrow/Ellen Robinson

[marymint39]

Both my gg-grandparents. George Morrow and Ellen Robinson were born in Ireland, and came to England between 1840 and 1844.     Their marriage certificate (1st August 1844,St. Phillips Church, Birmingham) notes George as a police office, father James Morrow (labourer) .   I estimate that George would have been born around 1820 as he was noted "of full age" at the time of his marriage.  Ellen's father was Hugh Robinson, also a labourer.  As they named their first daughter Mary, I am assuming that was the name of George's mother.  They were Irish protestants.    The census (1851-1881 notes then only as being born  in Ireland, no city or town. I would like to hear from anyone researching these names, or has any other relevent information.

Marymint39

[aghadowey]

Traditional Irish naming pattern is for 1st daughter to be named after mother's mother (not paternal grandmother) but you can't assume parents called child for either mother. Unfortunately civil registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages in Ireland started 1864 (other marriages from 1845).
Were any of George and Ellen's children born in Ireland? If so it would be worth tracing them in each possible census record in case they put county of birth (many 1911 census entries seems to have an even more exact place listed).

[shanew147]

I suspect that northern counties are more likely as the location of both Morrow/Robinsons families as the surnames are most concentrated in those areas at the time of Griffiths (1850/60s)

Morrow
1.      Down      180   
2.      Donegal      102   
3.      Antrim      91   
4.      Armagh      58   
5.      Tyrone      44   

Robinson
1.      Antrim      380   
2.      Down      250   
3.      Armagh      202   
4.      Tyrone      197   
5.      Fermanagh      130   

(no of households)


Shane

[marymint39]

Hi ,

Thank you for taking the time to reply.  All of George and Ellen's children were born in Birmingham    Staffordforshire and Liverpool.   I have assumed that they met in England.

Mary

[marymint39]

Hi,

Thank for your quick reply to my post.   I will print this our and keep it for future reference.   I was thinking of looking at earlier census in Ireland for their parents, James Morrow and Hugh Robinson.  Do you know what the earliest census for Ireland was?


Mary

[aghadowey]

1901 is oldest complete census for Ireland. Only small fragments of earlier ones survive but to search them you really need to know the county if not townaldn or parish.