where are they buried?

[sandra bills]

Hi Dobby,

Some of these sites look really good and I have plenty to keep me going.\
Thanks,
Sandra

[dobfarm]

Hi Sandra


I'm back home now and been to Ogden/Overden/Illingworth

First Mount Zion is at Ogden but just in overden boundary but it Ogden Top well above the town ships of Illingworth and overden also Illingworth merthodist church is there as well- a good 2 miles from(Above on the moor) the townships. Halfarm seems a mastery to the locals and I called at Halifax Library and looked at the 1850's map -Nothing on hal farm?

John Cockcroft found at Queensbury  baptist chapel grave owner no dates -I have now found his grave MI
John Cockroft died 29th May 1881 age 76 Wife Mary died 1844 age 39 (hence John the grave owner in the book)

So that one Eliminated

There were actually 23 John Cockroft and John Cockcrofts buried between 1837 and 1852 in the gro
and with so little info of lost grave yards Lost parish burial registers. Only the Gro's may give the answer but they give out very little info

So Sorry!
 

Dobby

[sandra bills]

Hi Dobby,

yes it does seem to be a bit elusive this farm. It must have existed. Well At least you had all that lovely fresh air.
I have already found all, I believe of Joseph's siblings and Samuel, the youngest, I sent for marriage certificate and only gives John as father and weaver as occuptaiton for John. Just, what looks like Oven den something which I think is just the registrars fancy writing.
I have two brothers for John Cockroft 1776. one I believe is
Henry Cockroft born 1775, he was living at Shaking House, Rocks,I have him listeed in Mt. Zion for deaths.there was industry going on there by subsequent owners or renters later. I believe, the other is James around about the same time. Thanks for looking anyway.
I think Iwill send for death certificate anyway for John Cockroft death Zion 1847. He was at Tipping Green. It might give us more leads.
You have exceeded your post in your efforts and very grateful to you.
I still have lots of leads and info to go through so something, I am sure will show up sooner or later, and then it all , usually, clicks into place.
Sandra

[dobfarm]

Hello Sandra,

I'll have a look at this from a new angle from your Joseph's Bapt 1815 and a full look at these census originals in the Halifax library also enumeration districts from the census recorders route around the streets of the district! We have concentrated on John b 1776 with tipping green looking as a good possibility!

Sally or Sarah is the one to work as burial place.

What is the connection of Hal farm to John & Sally.

I'll do this on when I'm doing my other archive business over the winter months.

Dobby

[sandra bills]

Hi Dobby,]
Sally down as farmer in 1851. In 1861 William wh is with her in 1841 and 1851 is in Hal Farm House. Samuel , if I remembrf rrightly, (Joseph's brother) is tere is 1841. In 1861 after Sally death Charles there in No 5 Hal House.
in 1861 William is back there with his sister Ellin who is also unmarried. Sometimes it is Hal Farm , Sometimes Hal House and No. 5 Hal.

I don't have the census for Ovenden and relying totally on a distant cousin who is working with me on this as her g grandmother and my g  grandmother living in same house in 1871.

I have today ordered the death certificate for Sally Cockroft
death Halifax 1857.  it seems the most likely and not many others for that date. Where did you get the date of 1851 from Dobby?

Sandra

[sandra bills]

Sorry Dobby,
I mean 1857. mistyped. rushing around this morning, got to go out and trying to cook some dinner as well.

Sandra

[dobfarm]

Hi again

Yes ! 1851 death of Sally???  Good question! I got Sarah! 1851 c - back from Australian post request (Night time) by me for Sally 1851c Hence I need orignal Census info to work from.

Sally or
Sarah Cockroft GRO's Death's

Sally or
Sarah Cock C roft (Cockcroft) Gro Deaths

Mount Zion website say there are many graves in one section not on their list! Only recording the best condition headstones

Illingworth Methodist grave yard is only 1/4 mile from Mount zion chapel all intact and bigger and unrecorded as MIs Yet!

[dobfarm]

John 1841c Broad St Halifax last known abode Qu! is he buried there and Sally went to live near or with William after John's death?

[sandra bills]

Hi Dobby,]

nearest church to broad street is in Lee Mount Area which is St. Georges. I think that they are a Catholic Church, but haven't persued that area yet.

Hope to have something from Sally Cockroft death cert. I don't know if they give maiden name. I have only six candidates of marriages for Halifax for Sally or Sarahs.
So hoping I can eliminate them as we go along.
Candidates are Midgely, Hanson, Culpan and three others
favourites as in order.
There is a child in the family within ten years with the name of Midgely Cockroft, so whether that is a clue we shall see.
I hope they put the maiden name on the certificate.
Sandra