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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:05 BST (UK) »
the day and month is the 22nd march 1853

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Selina is ClayDON in freebmd (Mar qtr 1852, vol 7a , p 147)

& he's FredRick
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:14 BST (UK) »
She was Selina CLAYDON according to the GRO index

The reason we need this info is to try and find them on the 1851 census to establish their respective birthplaces

We cannot find any other info on Frederick until we know where he was born

Have you reason to believe that Frederick & Selina were Gypsies (travellers)

What were the names, birthyears and birthplaces  of any of their children born before 1861 as there is no obvious census entry for this couple
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:16 BST (UK) »
Deaths March qtr 1857     
Holland  Selina     Ashby de la Zouch  7a *

Births March qtr 1857 
 
Holland  Selina     Ashby de la Zouch  7a 102

The death is either the child or the mother
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
in 1871 census there was a spelling mistake made on thier last name it is under wollam, i have just noticed that on the cert it is selina and on the census it is spelt celenea. thier childrens names are moses born ravenstone 1854/5, susannah 1862, fredrick 1864.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:32 BST (UK) »
in 1871 census there was a spelling mistake made on thier last name it is under wollam, i have just noticed that on the cert it is selina and on the census it is spelt celenea. thier childrens names are moses born ravenstone 1854/5, susannah 1862, fredrick 1864.
on the marriage cert there is an x because they couldnt write thier name

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:35 BST (UK) »
Per IGI at www.familysearch.org - no guarantees it's the right entry

FREDERIC HOLLAND   Christening:  17 APR 1813   Medbourne Cum Holt Leicester Father  ROBERT HOLLAND   Mother  ANNE 
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:42 BST (UK) »
Pauline asked

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where does he give as a birthplace in census?
but you did not reply

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We cannot find any other info on Frederick until we know where he was born

You already have the 1871 census which gives both their birthplaces as Ratby so why didn't you include that info in your post - it would have saved us a great deal of time and effort

SELINA CLAYDON   Christening:  10 OCT 1824   Ratby Leicester,    Father:  BRIGHTON CLAYDON    Mother:  MARIA 


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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:49 BST (UK) »
sorry there was someone else asking me for info i must have sent it to them by mistake. thank you for finding fredrick i will look in to that a bit more to find out if its him