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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 11:30 BST (UK) »
Dear Malbec

Please send me a PM as I live in Armidale.

Bridget was born  1814 so if she lived 81 years  she would have 5 years missing if died in 1900.

I'll do more searching.

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 11:53 BST (UK) »
The Bridget Whittaker listed as dying Armidale 1900 has her Father's Given Name as THOMAS

This can't be the Bridget , daughter of JAMES FLOOD

There was another James and Catherine Flood from Ireland, she was the sister of the Publician at BALMAIN

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 11:57 BST (UK) »
That's right.

Bridget snr on the Elphinstone is listed as having parents Thomas and Mary, both
of whom were deceased.  I suspect though that someone either misread or mistold Bridget
her mother's name (this is pure speculation) as the only details I can find for her parents are those that PKKIL listed
in a previous post.
Cormack,Doull,Geddes,Green,Phimister,Sinclair,Sutherland-Caithness
Cornelius-Burma
Mackenzie/McKenzie-Ross & Cromarty, Caithness, Edinburgh, Burma
Skinner-Kent, Madras
Meakin,Whittaker-Staffordshire
Flood-Kildare
Brodie-Australia, Dundee
Tickle-Birmingham
Torrens-Derry

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 12:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks,

If Thomas is listed then she is NOT the sister of JAMES and THOMAS

OR

They WROTE THE INCORRECT FATHER and it should have been JAMES

maybe we will never know

She could have been a cousin of JAMES and THOMAS

On her weeding certificate she state the father as THOMAS


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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 28 April 11 07:18 BST (UK) »
I now have viewed the birth 10/02/1825 , marriage, and death certificate 1900 of the single  female BRIDGET FLOOD arrived Sydney 5 October 1840 on "ELPHISTONE" as a BOUNTY IMIGRANT and married George Whitacker at Maitland in 1843.

Her father was listed as Thomas Flood Monasterevin district Kildare.
There is no evidence I can locate to suggest  she could have been related to the James and Catherine Flood family that settled for the next 100 plus years around Carcoar but as she went towards the Hunter region Maitland and not  west across the Great Divide with the James and Catherine Flood family and Thomas Flood snr I  suspect that this Bridget might have only had the FLOOD name in common with the two brothers JAMES and THOMAS snr.

There was on the same ship a girl Bridget aged 6 daughter of James and Catherine who went on to marry Royal ATKINS at Carcoar  in 1856 and there died in 1868.

see my previous posting of CARCOAR BURIALS.

What interests me is that THOMAS and WILLIAM get a mention but not JOHN or other brothers born after they arrived at CARCOAR like JAMES, PATRICK, or nothing other than birth of CHRISTOPHER.

Such is the complex interactions of siblings? even in the late 1800s.

I am still attempting to locate the death and burial place of JAMES FLOOD husband of CATHERINE.

Can anyoe with an interest in FLOOD FAMILY HISTORY assist???????

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #50 on: Friday 29 April 11 18:08 BST (UK) »
My ggg grandmother Margaret Flood (born 1787) was from Brownstown, The Curragh.

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 25 April 13 13:45 BST (UK) »
There is an interesting article here...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/21656334?searchTerm=Whittaker%20maitland%20&searchLimits

 that talks about Bridget Floods young brother Patrick being Britains oldest man in 1930 (when he died).    His birth year however doesn't match up with that given by PKKIL but that's probably not surprising.

I also found this...
=http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/83491841?searchTerm=flood%20oldest%20british%20man&searchLimits=

but I'm finding it difficult to find any record of his death in the Irish records.
Cormack,Doull,Geddes,Green,Phimister,Sinclair,Sutherland-Caithness
Cornelius-Burma
Mackenzie/McKenzie-Ross & Cromarty, Caithness, Edinburgh, Burma
Skinner-Kent, Madras
Meakin,Whittaker-Staffordshire
Flood-Kildare
Brodie-Australia, Dundee
Tickle-Birmingham
Torrens-Derry

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 25 April 13 15:53 BST (UK) »
If Patrick Flood (who died supposedly at the age of 115 in 1930) is Bridget’s brother, then it looks like he is not the Patrick, son of Thomas and Ellen Garten Flood.  Here is a piece out of The Irish Times, Saturday, December 27, 1930 - the heading reads : "Funeral of the Oldest Man in Ireland".  It is too long to transcribe but here is what I think is relevant to you :

"He continued to work until the time when the old page pensions (1909) were first paid.  When he came to prove his age, it was found that no written record of his birth or christening was in existence.  Other applicants for pensions who could prove their ages all said that Mr Flood was ‘a grown man’ when they were children and he got his pension.  Since that time he has kept an account of his age himself, carefully noting the years."

Interestingly, when they tried to prove the ages of people in 1909, they looked at the 1851 census which had not been destroyed at that time - don't know why they didn't find an approximate age for him then.  If he was born c. 1815, he could well be Bridget's brother and their births were not recorded in the baptismal records for Monastereven which started in 1819.

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Re: Bridget FLOOD
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 25 April 13 16:25 BST (UK) »
On further reading the Irish Times article, I really doubt that this particular Patrick Flood was Bridget's brother.  It looks like he was born in Co. Wexford in Killegney near Enniscorthy.

"At midday on Christmas Eve, in the  ancient graveyard at Cloughbawn, Enniscorthy, were laid to rest the remains of Patrick Flood of Killegney, who claimed to be the oldest man in the British Isles.

As nearly can be ascertained,  he was born in 1815, the year of the Battle of Waterloo and all his life of 115 years he lived the uneventful routine of agricultural labourer in his native parish."  I take it that the native parish is the Civil parish of Clonroche where Killegney is located.

Patrick does not appear in Killegney in the 1901 census (the Enumerator may have missed him) but he is there in 1911 with his wife Catherine (aged 70!).  Bridget's descendents must have seen an article in the paper that a Patrick Flood had died (b. 1815) and, since she was long dead by that time and not able to confirm or deny, and since she must have had a brother called Patrick, they presumed that this was her brother.  More than likely they didn't know the geography of Ireland and didn't realise that Enniscorthy is in Co. Wexford and not Kildare, where Bridget hailed from.  They may not also have known that Patrick Flood was a common enough name in Ireland.