Can anyone help transcribe this place name?

[chesters]

Hi,

Can anyone help in transcribing this place name? The one I am after is the middle one.



Thanks,
Chesters.

[genjen]

Could it be Tywyn, near Abergele?

Jen

[maidmarion]

Hi chesters,
I thought the first letter was a G  and ending in wern

Are there any capital Gs to compare it to?

[danuslave]

Hi Chesters

Can you give us the census reference, then we can look at the original for comparison   

Linda

[chesters]

Hi, thanks for quick replies.

Here is the full image:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/213/63790814.jpg

Also, I forgot to mention in 1851 (this image is  1861) he put his place of birth as Llanfechain in Montgomeryshire.

Chesters.

[genjen]

It doesn't look like the G at the beginning of Gardener ( line four) to me. But I am struggling to see a letter which it does look like?

[danuslave]

I think it looks more like the I in Iron Bridge (2 lines below in original) than anything else

There are no uprights or tails, so we've probably got a lot of n, w, m, r, e  etc.  Could be any where in Wales really   

Does anyone know where the old border was between Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire?  That might narrow it down a bit as he seems to have crossed over between 1851 & 1861!

Linda

[chesters]

genjen, I thought it was a T initially and it looks like the letter at the begining of the second place name, which I assume is Totham, Essex.

Chesters.

[genjen]

Yes, It does look like that.

I am still inclined towards Tywyn - which is in Denbighshire - but incorrectly spelled "Tuwun". If you think about the pronunciation of the "y" in Welsh words, it is possible that whoever wrote it down thought that's how it was spelled.

Jen