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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:51 BST (UK) »
could be that Jen, although it is a way off Llanfechain and from Whittington and West Felton, where he lived when married.

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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:52 BST (UK) »
It looks like Trewern to me.  I don't know of one in Denbighshire but there is one in Montgomeryshire - miles from the Denbighshire/Mont border thougfh - nearer Kington/Presteigne(Llanandras)


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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:54 BST (UK) »
Yes much more likely a T than a G, I was looking at a curl on the letter below :-[
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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:55 BST (UK) »
There is a Gwern, just south west of Llanfechain

Tre just means town/township so it could be Trewern with the 'g' dropped/mutated


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Added - it's very much Mont/Denbs borders around there as well - Llangedwyn, etc.
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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 September 09 15:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the help so far.

It doesn't look like this one's going to be very easy to solve :-\

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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 September 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
Given where he spent most of his life, it is unlikely to be on the Denbighshire coastline and more likely to be in north  Montgomeryshire.

I've checked all my Montgomeryshire baptisms for 1790-1800 and can't find a suitable candidate. Was it possible that the family might have been non-conformists?

I'll get my local maps out  :)


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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 September 09 17:30 BST (UK) »
How about this Trewern:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=329465&y=333125&z=115&sv=329465,333125&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=615&ax=329465&ay=333125&lm=0

It's just to the west of Gobowen and  NW of Whittington and just on the Shropshire side of the border with Denbighshire.

Having been born and brought up not far from there, the west side of the road was often regarded as part of Wales and not England.

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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 September 09 18:24 BST (UK) »
I have had this sort of problem before. It is possible to put the unknown placename on the left of the screen and alongside it bring up the 1881 census.
At the bottom of the search page enter the country name ie Wales and then the county 'Denbighshire'  and the next box are all the parishes  in a sub box which you can scroll down and compare with the unknown place. Change the county and you will get all its places. 
I have done this for Denbighshire and Flintshire and cannot find any match.
Trewern does appear in Montgomeryshire.
The boundaries for Flint and Denbigh have changed considerably since the Clwyd era. Even so Trewern is still a good way south of Denbighshire.
What does the previous census show as his place of birth?
Hill in Tavistock, Twose and Coles in Halberton, Flower in Havant and Wells.
Negus in Polebrook  Jones in Kingswinford, Phillips in Chirk, Dodd in Cheshire

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Re: Can anyone help transcribe this place name?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 September 09 18:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Eldon

I don't think it's  the Trewern in south Montgomeryshire that I saw on the Gazeteer and mentioned  yesterday.

I've since focused on the area where he lived and where he said he was born on the 1851. 

My money is either on the Trewern near Gobowen or the Gwern near Llanfechain but, given the Gobowen one is so close to Whittington and it would be known locally, I'm opting for that one.



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