Hi, My grandfather was John Philip Bates (Jack) and his father was William. I think there were Josephs in the family too. William worked on the railway. A cousin has photographic evidence that he drove the royal train (King Edward, I presume). He was very tall and played a silver trombone in a local band. His wife was Sarah. MY grandfather had a twin, Dora who died quite young. Also in the family were Mabel, Nellie, Ethel, Basil and Gertrude. Sarah died in an old people's home in Winslow.
Might we be related?
Christine.