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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 November 10 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Christine,

Were your Bates from Penn?  If so there is probably a connection somewhere.  I don't think I have a direct link to any of the names but on the other hand most of my Bates past families had lots of childrens which I haven't researched.  So it is possible that your Bates's are descended from a sibling that I don't have on my tree.  So if they are from Penn could be distant cousins?

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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 November 10 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello!

I've looked on my tree and found 3 William Bates with sons called John! Do you know Williams dob at all?
Daniel
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London

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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 November 10 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
No. Idon't know those details. However, it seems my grandfather's grandparents were William and Arabella Bates of Fenny Sratford if that helps. They lived on a farm there called Yard's End. I think this William was born at Drayton Parslow. Arabella's maiden name may have been Mead because they also brought up Arabella's nephew called Merrick Mead who was possibly the illigitimate son of one of the Beecham family from Mursley (pill maker and also father of Sir Thomas Beecham). Mother was a maid at the Beecham family residence. The child was well provided for by somebody at any rate - more than could be accounted for by a servant's wages.

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Christine Thompson.

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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 November 10 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello!
None of those names ring any bells unfortunately. You never know though if we dig deep there may be a connection!!
Daniel
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London


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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 December 10 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
No. Idon't know those details. However, it seems my grandfather's grandparents were William and Arabella Bates of Fenny Sratford if that helps. They lived on a farm there called Yard's End. I think this William was born at Drayton Parslow. Arabella's maiden name may have been Mead because they also brought up Arabella's nephew called Merrick Mead who was possibly the illigitimate son of one of the Beecham family from Mursley (pill maker and also father of Sir Thomas Beecham). Mother was a maid at the Beecham family residence. The child was well provided for by somebody at any rate - more than could be accounted for by a servant's wages.

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Christine Thompson.

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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 December 10 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi christine
My grandfather was merrick mead. He was the iliegitimate son of Thomas beecham and Elizebeth Mead. He was sent to live with his aunt and uncle at the age of five. Philip and arabella bates. If you look at the 1901 census you will see them. Arabellas sister, Lois sewell married John Mead my great grandfather.  Merrick had a short life he died tragically on the 12,8,1925 aged 32 he was married with three childen. My dad was his only son. If you look at Merricks full name MERRICK RICHARD BRIDGEMON MEAD, his mother was not aloud to use his real surname so she picked one of his middle names that most sounded like Beecham. Merrick is buried in a paupers grave in rugby were he died.
                              Julie Mead

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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 December 10 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all that. Just curious to know where the name "Merrick" came from. It's not a common name.


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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 December 10 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi christine, We are a very nautical family. Merrick means strong ruler of the sea. Is there any info you could share with me. Are the bates family aware of Merricks existence.
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Re: BATES Family
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 December 10 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Is it a coincidence that there was a Mr Merrick Selby-Lowndes who lived in Mursley?

As a child, I was always told that my grandfather had been raised with an illegitimate member of the aristocracy but I didn't know who it was until very recently. Which Thomas Beecham was Merrick's father, the pill maker or the conductor?

What would you like to know about the Bates family? I think my grandfather might be what you would call a "lovable rogue". I loved him to bits as I think so did several of us grandchildren. Although, I think my grandmother and their children may have thought differently. He was quite fond of a drink and inclined to be bad-tempered when he'd had a few. I'm fairly sure he had an illegitimate child, a daughter who is about the same age as me.  Legend also has it that he got expelled from a local school for "accidentally" locking the headmaster in a walk-in cupboard overnight. He joined the army under age at the start of the first world war and ended up in hospital in Barnards castle after being gassed.  We were also told that his mother, Sarah, was the daughter of a vicar. It seems clear to me now that this was not true. However, Grandad used to talk about a Salvation Army chapel and I wonder if maybe Sarah's father was involved in preaching there. Grandfather was one of a big family of children but the only one I can ever remember meeting was called Aunt Tot who lived in Hillmorton, Rugby. I think she may have been Mabel and was called Aunt Tot because she was tall for a girl (grandad's father was also tall. I do actually have just one photo of this great-grandfather.


Christine.