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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 10 September 09 08:59 BST (UK) »
Well....A lot of " ifs" here....but...

If he was married, lived in Nottingham and lost his tape, the one on CWGC that MAY fit him (of course there are several typo's and mis-spellings on there!) could well be this one...

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=305078
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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 10 September 09 09:06 BST (UK) »
Edward James
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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 10 September 09 09:11 BST (UK) »
Edward James
Born West Malling Kent

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Ah well....

Note to self...Must shell out on SDGW  ;D
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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 10 September 09 13:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for all the responses, I feel like I'm hogging the whole forum!  :-[

Eric was indeed a captain in the Artillary, I have his service record so only really posted the picture as an interesting background to the original picture.

As for Ernest, I know he was in Portsmouth on the 1901 census but was born in Cheltenham, 1894. The family remained in Portsmouth so I assume he did too. The "knowledge" that he died "very young" in the great war is family rumour so I'm trying to find the facts.

Can't seem to find his service record on Ancestry either, as I know his parents names, I can discount many of the E Kemp entires.
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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 10 September 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
I cant see an Ernest Kemp on the Soldiers Died database that has born Cheltenham.

Could he have died after discharge due to wounds after the Great War? or could he have been in a commonwealth army such as Canada?

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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 10 September 09 14:54 BST (UK) »
It's not a Canadian uniform....There are too few buttons...Deffo a British one...:)


Have you tried Free BMD?
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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 10 September 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Simon,

Not sure if you are aware but Minnie died in 1904

Minnie Blanche KEMP    age 38    Portsmouth 2b 300     March Q 1904

And looking at 1911 census it appears that Thomas Henry is listed as married to Isabella Chambers Kemp age age 37 (b abt 1874). They appear to have a son Aubrey age 7.  Still with them are Charles Henry age 24 and Linda Blanche age 18. 


MARRIAGE March Quarter 1906   Portsmouth    2b   769
KEMP    Thomas Henry             
Smith    Isabella Chambers       


So when you are looking for Next of Kin/Parents on CWGC or Soldiers Died you should also be looking for Isabella as it was quite common to have the stepmother listed rather than the deceased mother.



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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 10 September 09 15:26 BST (UK) »
also.......


Ernest is not living with them in the same household in 1911. Although there is an Ernest Kemp born Cheltenham 1895 age 16 living in Fareham, Hants which could be him. He is listed as being in the Military - so perhaps you are looking for a career soldier who had served at least 3 years before the start of the war. Perhaps he even died before the First War. You would probably find his regiment if you were to download the original  at www.1911census.co.uk (presuming he is the right chap of course)

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Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 10 September 09 16:20 BST (UK) »
Great stuff Milly, I haven't had a chance to look at the 1911 for the Kemp family.
You're absolutely right, Minnie did die and Thomas Henry did remarry and have Aubrey (my family know Aubrey's children now) but I'd not thought about referring to his step mother.
I'll try Ernest in the 1911 to see if it gives his regiment and then try and find some records.

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