Barr & Goldsmith

[Dovecote.]

I'm looking for any info on William Barr b. abt 1825 also his wife Rebecca Goldsmith b. abt 1825
they were living in the Holborn around 1851 according their children's christening records
William - 16th April 1851
Henry Joseph - 27th April 1851
Thomas - 3rd Aug 1854

I'm unable to find this family on any census - on their son Henry Joseph's marriage cert he gives his fathers occupation as 
ship owner.
Any info about this family would be much appreciated 

[CaroleW]

Hi

on their son Henry Joseph's marriage cert

   When and where did Henry marry

Marriages March qtr 1847   
 
William Barr      East London  2   197   
Rebecca  Goldsmith

Are there 2 couples of the same name?  Only one marriage on freebmd for a William Barr spouse Rebecca

In all of the entries below - parents were William and Rebecca

GEORGE RICHARD BARR   Birth:  02 AUG 1846 - I wonder if this should be 1848   
Christening:  06 MAR 1853   St Bride Fleet St

WILLIAM BARR   Birth:  30 MAY 1849   
Christening:  16 APR 1851   Saint Andrew, Holborn
 
WILLIAM RAWLINS BARR   Birth: 30 MAY 1849   
06 MAR 1853   St Bride Fleet St

HENRY JOSEPH BARR   Birth:  19 FEB 1851   
Christening:  27 APR 1851   Saint Andrew Holborn   

JOHN BARR   Birth:  09 DEC 1852   
Christening:  06 MAR 1853   St Bride Fleet St, London   
 
THOMAS BARR   Birth:  13 MAY 1854   
Christening:  03 AUG 1854   Saint Andrew Holborn   
 

Births - Joseph Henry Barr March qtr 1851  West London 
Volume: 2  Page: 288

Thomas Barr June qtr 1854 West London  Volume: 1c  Page: 66

Deaths Sep 1854 
Rebecca  Barr West London  1c 50

[Dovecote.]

Hi Carole thanks for the info.
Henry Joseph Barr was my husbands great grandfather, Ive found him on 1871/81/91 census but had no luck so far finding his parents William and Rebecca.
From the info you gave me there must have been 2 couples living in London with the same name
 
I think these were the children of the
William + Rebecca I'm researching                             [different family]
William Barr b. 1849                                               George Richard Barr b. 1846               
Henry Joseph Barr b. 1851                                      William Rawlins Barr b.1849                 
Thomas Barr b.1854                                               John Barr b.1852

                                 
Henry Joseph's marriage cert
29th Aug 1870  Torrington Devon
 
[NAME]                            [AGE]           [FATHER]              [OCCUPATION]
Henry Joseph Barr        21 Bachelor        William Barr                 Shipowner         
Harriet Hughes             20 Spinster         William Hughes           Horsedealer




                     

[Andrewlily1]

Hi

on their s Squire Barr) Their first son

[Andrewlily1]

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[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Just in case you don't have their marriage  St Botoplh Bishopsgate 7.2.1847
William Barr  cook St Swithins Lane s of John Barr brazier
Rebecca Goldsmith d of Thomas Goldsmith baker
wit Joseph Wheeley and Sarah Ann Hudson

In 1861 they are in 17 Hull St Lambeth
Henry Barr 33 cook Southwark
Mary 26 Whitechapel
William 13
Henry 11
John 9
Thomas 7
Mary Ann 7
Hester 18 millner Wantage
Emma Norris visitor unmarried servant Bath

Can't spot them in 1851 but you probably have them by now.

Ciderdrinker

[rosie99]

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[rosie99]

When Henry Joseph was baptised the address was 6 Blewitts Buildings (Holborn).  It was also Blewetts buildings when William was baptised though no number.

They are at Blewetts buildings in 1851 census

Wm Barr 27 bn occ Cook
Rebecca 27
William 2
Joseph 1mth
also Joseph Goldsmith 39

HO107/1527 f39 page 24

FindMyPast has them transcribed as Barns but Joseph Goldsmith is transcribed as Joseph Goldsmith

Young William and his brother Joseph pob is City of London.  Rebecca and Joseph Goldsmith are bn Sussex and William snr bn Surrey (Southwark?).  I will leave you to try and work out what towns they were born in.

That census reference won't help you to find them on Ancestry as it takes you to a page for Yorkshire with a totally different reference.  This link should do it, the entry at the top of the page
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u89/

[rosie99]

Found it on Ancestry 
Wm Brown
Rebecca Brown
Wm Brown
Joseph Brown
Joseph Jaldssnill

Now I know why the census reference would not find it on Ancestry they have it as
Piece   1527
Folio   23
Page number 39
The folio and page numbers are the wrong way round