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Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« on: Monday 31 August 09 12:42 BST (UK) »
Elinor Thursfield married Ivor Hopwood on the 16th October 1951.
She was a widow who was living at 'The Bungalow, Edenfield' at the time of the marriage and her profession was listed as manageress of Booksellers and Librarians( her father's surname was Holden.) She was a widow of 42 years of age when she married Ivor Hopwood and he was aged 32 at the time of marriage and the divorced husband of Iris Hopwood, formerly Davies and his occupation was listed as a telecommunications engineer living at 10 Clarendon Road, Whalley Range, Manchester.
The marriage could not have lasted long as he remarried in Preston in 1954.
I am hoping that someone is still alive that knows/knew of Elinor or if any friends/neighbours/relations are alive that can tell me anything about Elinor ie Is she still alive? Did she have siblings who may be still alive or does anyone know where exactly in Edenfield is 'The Bungalow'? Any information about any of the above would be welcome.
Ivor was my father and I am only now getting to find out about his life after my mother divorced him. Through Rootschat I have found out he died in New Zealand in 1966 and his status was given as separated at the time of his death. I am grateful for any information regarding him or the women he subsequently married. Perhaps there are some former work colleagues still alive that have information about her/him.

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 August 09 19:44 BST (UK) »
Hiya Maxidog.....if you go to 192.com and put in the surname and town of the persons surname you are researching you may find a family of the same name....where is Edenfield ?.....allan
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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 November 25 00:59 GMT (UK) »
The only birth record I could find for Elinor Holden is

Births Sep 1905   (>99%)
Holden    Elinor        Blackburn    8e   359

If this is her, she wouldn't be alive now.

I can't find a death record for Elinor Hopwood. There is a marriage record for Elinor Elizabeth Hopwood

Marriages Jun 1975   (>99%)
BAROTH    CHARLES W    HOPWOOD    DOWNHAM    10   1270   
HOPWOOD    ELINOR E    BAROTH    DOWNHAM    10 1270

Charles William Baroth was a widower (two previous marriages)


Deaths 1985   (>99%)
BAROTH    CHARLES WILLIAM    13JA1900    DOWNHAM    10   1127

Deaths 1993   (>99%)
BAROTH    ELINOR ELIZABETH    13MR1911    KINGS LYNN    6371B   128

According to AI, "The Bungalow" on Edenfield Road in Greater Manchester is located in Rochdale.

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 November 25 02:04 GMT (UK) »
The second? wife of Charles W was Hida May nee CLEMENTS

Hilda May BAROTH
Death Date 11 Mar. 1972
Death Place Gloucestershire
Probate Date 22 May 1972
Probate Registry Oxford..

Estate about 10,000 pounds.

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 November 25 03:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes, this looks like the first marriage

Marriages Mar 1920   (>99%)

Baroth    Charles W    Buckley    Bakewell    7b   1541    
Buckley    Lois    Baroth    Bakewell    7b   1541

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 November 25 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Yes.
I see them in 1921 living with her family.
He is 21, she is 35 and baby boy Charles Dennis is 10 months.

He states born Shanghai China and is a saw mill foreman

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 November 25 08:19 GMT (UK) »
as per #2

HOLDEN, ELINOR       mmn KIRKPATRICK 
GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 359  (see next post re birth)

Appears with parents 1911/21 census

Married John Stanley Thursfield  1934--image available on Ancestry

War register dob 6.10.1908

Death dob 6.10.1907        (1)

Eleanor Hopwood d age 75 registered Mar qtr 1983 Blackburn RD
Volume   40 Page   0226

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 November 25 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Going by 1911 census something was wrong with Elinor's birth.

HOLDEN, ELEANOR       GILPATRICK 
GRO Reference: 1907  D Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 356        (1)

HOLDEN, ELINOR       KIRKPATRICK 
GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 359        (2)

HOLDEN, ELINOR       aged 0 
GRO Reference: 1906  M Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 261        (2)

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Re: Elinor Thursfield/Hopwood/Holden from Edenfield
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 November 25 13:49 GMT (UK) »
It looks like you're right SS.  :)