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« on: Saturday 29 August 09 16:00 BST (UK) »
Hi i have a census extract as attached but i cant make out the wife's first name i think it looks like Hert? Anyone any other ideas any help appreciated

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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 August 09 16:11 BST (UK) »
Could it be Hester??

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Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 August 09 16:50 BST (UK) »
Can you give us the census reference, or a bit more to compare it with?

The letter at the start of the name doesn't look like the H in Head of house.  Could it be a K?

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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 August 09 17:07 BST (UK) »
Hi i have a census extract as attached but i cant make out the wife's first name i think it looks like Hert? Anyone any other ideas any help appreciated
Hi! Gerard, This is rather difficult whilst the extract has been written by two different people.  The H in the Hd head of family, has a completely different H to the one we suspect is Hert. (The R's also seem different too)
Maybe the person transcribing  that which looks like Hert could have misheard and wrote it phonetically or in some colloquial expression,and it was overlooked by the other person filling in the rest of the document.
(Is this a certificate or a transcript from a church register???) as Certs have more details. Hester (normally spelled Ester) could sound like that (soundex) if in a local dialect would not be correctly written.
Just a thought

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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 August 09 17:39 BST (UK) »
I agree that the first letter does not look quite like the "H" in "Head" and the third letter does not look quite like the "r" in other words.  My money would be on "Kent", which is not necessarily the same as the English county between London and Calais.  I came across it once a long time ago (with an ancient form of - possibly - Celtic capital "K") in a book of locomotive names.  I believe it was in the Isle of Man and could be a Manx or Gaelic name - Manx and Gaelic (both Scots and Irish) are very closely related to each other.
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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 August 09 19:27 BST (UK) »
http://www.hethert.org/TheNameofHet-Hert.html

Check this link - Hert as a name
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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 August 09 08:49 BST (UK) »
There is a definite "kink" in the right-hand stroke of the capital which makes it likely to be a K. And the next two letters are similar to the e and a in the surname. Could the name simply be Keat - either as a variation of the similar surname, or even of Kate, and pronounced like it, as well?

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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 August 09 11:57 BST (UK) »
Just a thought - were the members of the RAHER family born in the UK?

I suppose it's possible that the Wife had a name that was unusual/difficult for the Enumerator to understand/record -  maybe one the Enumerator hadn't heard of before! - and he wrote down an approximation/abbreviation of it.

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Re: Need help on wife's first name please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 August 09 13:00 BST (UK) »
I'm flummoxed by the given name too and looked on a couple of "old Irish given name" websites to see if I could spot anything - unfortunately not.
 That exact surname spelling is found in Ireland, Germany and a few in France according to www.familysearch.org  which might mean that an old family name from any of those countries could have been passed down.

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