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Struggling!
« on: Thursday 27 August 09 17:34 BST (UK) »
Could anyone please confirm whether John Fairbairn - married to Alison Ainslie 1792 - is the son of John Fairbairn and Elizabeth Carse?  2 Children Robert and William Fairbairn, sons of John Fairbairn were christened at Abbey St Bathans in 1787 and 1794.
Any further details (marriages, children) of either or both John's would be appreciated.
jonjor
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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Jonjor
I have found christenings for 2 daughters of John Fairbairn and Elizabeth Carse on familysearch.org:
Jennet Fairbairn: 02 SEP 1766   Swinton And Simprin, Berwick, Scotland
Agnes Fairbairn: 26 MAY 1760   Swinton And Simprin, Berwick, Scotland
From the same website I see that John and Elizabeth were married in Swinton/Simprin.
On Scotland's People put in John Fairbairn with parents John Fairbairn and Elizabeth C*s; Berwick; Swinton and there was one recorded in 1769. Hopefully this will be yours.
Rae
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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 19:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Rae
Many thanks for your trouble and for the info regarding John Fairbairn
and Elizabeth Carse.  Much appreciated.
jonjor
manchester - fairbairn, lambourn(e) lamburn
west bromwich - lambourn(e), lamburn
manchester - cookson
northwich - cookson
berwick on tweed - fairbairn
manchester - sullivan - thomas -  c1857

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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 September 09 11:13 BST (UK) »
Morning Rae
As I still seem to be struggling to sort the John Fairbairns out wondered if
you would be good enough to see if you could sort the following details out for me.  Understand if you can't and I'll do another post.
Should like any details about a John Fairbairn married to Elizabeth Yale
in c1775/1780
A Robert Fairbairn was christened at Abbey St. Bathans on May 22 Aug 1787 and William Fairbairn again christened At AbbeySt. Bathans 22 May 1794. Both enteries give father as John in Channabank.
Would appreciate any help to finding the name of their mother.  Could it be Elizabeth Yale?
Think there are more children than these two children but I'm particularly interested in William
Any help you could offer would be much appreciated.
Joan
manchester - fairbairn, lambourn(e) lamburn
west bromwich - lambourn(e), lamburn
manchester - cookson
northwich - cookson
berwick on tweed - fairbairn
manchester - sullivan - thomas -  c1857


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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 September 09 17:20 BST (UK) »
hi jonjor  :)

don't know if you have seen this tree on rootsweb which might be of some help ?

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=reinheim&id=I203

the details would have to be checked but it might give you something to go on

ev
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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 September 09 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Ev
No haven't heard of the site you suggest but will certainly give it a try.
Thanks.
jonjor
manchester - fairbairn, lambourn(e) lamburn
west bromwich - lambourn(e), lamburn
manchester - cookson
northwich - cookson
berwick on tweed - fairbairn
manchester - sullivan - thomas -  c1857

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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 September 09 10:23 BST (UK) »
Morning Ev
You get all the brownie points this week!!  What a find I've had through your suggested site.  Never thought I'd manage to get back to 1714 and find so many more children in the family.  It may also help trace two more that seem to have gone 'missing' in the late 1880's. Again, many thanks.  It now means I'm no longer 'struggling' with this part of the family.
jonjor
manchester - fairbairn, lambourn(e) lamburn
west bromwich - lambourn(e), lamburn
manchester - cookson
northwich - cookson
berwick on tweed - fairbairn
manchester - sullivan - thomas -  c1857

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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 September 09 10:59 BST (UK) »
morning Jonjor  :)

yes , that tree seems to have been fairly well researched , and while they
can be a great help it's important to keep in mind that they might not be 100%

ev
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Re: Struggling!
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 November 09 06:48 GMT (UK) »
Morning Ev
.... Never thought I'd manage to get back to 1714 and find so many more children in the family.  It may also help trace two more that seem to have gone 'missing' in the late 1880's....
jonjor
Hi Joan,
We all get there in the end!
I've just been following back a William David FAIRBAIRN, Presbyterian Minister in Victoria, Australia, and ended up (via his father William and the father's first wife Eliza GORDON) with a William FAIRBAIRN from Berwick, then Manchester then Camberwell, married 1819 Christchurch, Newgate, London, to a Sarah LLOYD, born Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
Then others' research kicked in pointing me to William born 11 May 1794 bap. 22 May Abbey St Bathans.

My research so far indicates that it is highly likely this William is your William, father of the James William FAIRBAIRN who married Susan MINTON and had (at least) James Edward, William Louis and your Robert.
Am in correspondence with several of your relations.

My interest?
Not my family that I know of, yet.  But as I'm administrator of the FAIRBAIRN Surname DNA Project, I'm always trying to figure out assorted lineages, and find DNA candidates to take part (discounts available until the end of December hint hint ;))
So far, most of the FAIRBAIRNs on the Borders are looking to be connected to a greater or lesser extent.
Check out http://dnasurnames.info/lineages/spFAIRBAIRNLineages.htm
and if you have a FAIRBAIRN brother or nephew who may be willing to represent this line in the project, send them along to the project via any of the Join links
eg
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/fairbairn/order

As I "dig" on FARIBAIRNs I add people to my FAIRBAIRN Research tree on ancestry, with their source data.
It's a public tree, with your William (marr. LLOYD) at
http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/13096026/person/16128617
for those with ancestry access.
You will also find snippets about the family of John FAIRBAIRN Elizabeth YULE on the GenForum FAIRBAIRN  board as a descendant with a great deal of info monitors that.

Admit that I'm not yet 100% convinced these Williams are one and the same, as I've not explored alternates, but the note that William son of John & Elizabeth "married an Englishwoman" is adding to the id.
Regards
Lorna
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