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St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« on: Thursday 27 August 09 08:23 BST (UK) »
Good morning,

I'm trying to locate the baptism of 3 children and the burial of 2 of those 3.
1885 Joseph Cephas VAUN, Shoeburyness, dec'd 1887
1887 Eliza Amelia VAUN, Prittlewell
1889 Albert Henry VAUN, Prittlewell, dec'd 1889.

I usually borrow films from my local LDS.  I intend to borrow some for Southend, one for Nth Shoebury Bps 1813-1949 but the following are not available to me. :-\

St Mary the Virgin, Prittlewell baptisms 1880-1893 [ERO D/P 183/1/48 microfiche].  Can't seem to find burials for 1889?
St Andrew, South Shoebury baptisms 1865-1892 [ERO D/P 282/1/4 microfiche]
St Andrew, Sth Shoebury burials 1878-1915 [ERO D/P 282/1/7 microfiche]
St Mary the Virgin, Nth Shoebury burials 1813 - 1892 [ERO D/P 216/1/14 microfiche]

I found the above ERO microfiche via SEAX and assuming I have not blundered the images don't seem to be yet available.

If someone is able to find time to have a look for me it would be most appreciated.  I'm not confident that the children are present in the listed Shoebury & Prittlewell registers but if they are it will save me ordering the Southend films - usually a 4-6 week turnaround.  I've no idea how busy these CofE Churches were but if they were quite busy then I understand your refusal to do look ups for me.

There is some variation in the spelling of the surname VAUN.  Father Joseph was born in France and could write legibly, but his English wife who registered the birth of the children could not write and some birth registrations have a surname phonetically similar to Vaun.  Alternatively, sometimes the handwriting of the clerk may be at fault and the u may look like n, resulting in VANN.  The informant for the death of Albert Henry was his father and the surname is definitely VAUN on the death certificate.

The parents are Joseph VAUN & Catherine Ann Gilham, and they married in Kent in 1880.

Details of the above 3 children of Joseph & Catherine Ann VAUN -

1885 Feb Joseph Cephas VAUGHAN born at Shoeburyness.
1887 Joseph Cephus VANN dec’d March Qtr Rochford 4a 229

1887 May Eliza Amelia VAUN born Prittlewell.

1889 Dec Qtr Rochford 4a 450 Albert Henry VAUGHAN born.
1889 Nov Albert Henry VAUN died at Prittlewell.

Besides being interested in the baptism/burial of the children, I'm curious see whether any entry might provide a vague clue about their father, Joseph Vaun.  I haven't been able to make any progress with him for a few years.

Any suggestions welcomed. :)

If I'm on the wrong track - please tell me.

best wishes,
Maxine Johnson
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Researching DARBYSHIRE at Ashton upon Mersey & Sale CHS,
HAMPSON at Stretford Lancs,
KINSEY & BASKERVILLE at Knutsford CHS
MOUNT & TUMBER in Kent and
VAUN in Kent & Essex ENG, France & Australia.

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 August 09 10:43 BST (UK) »
I am not sure the christening records will give you any more info than the birth certs - usually a lot less!

Re finding more about Joseph, bn France, who does he say on his marriage cert for his father?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 August 09 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

Father also known as Joseph VAUN, a labourer.

That's my experience with baptism records too but I feel I should make sure I have not overlooked anything. :)

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Maxine
Researching DARBYSHIRE at Ashton upon Mersey & Sale CHS,
HAMPSON at Stretford Lancs,
KINSEY & BASKERVILLE at Knutsford CHS
MOUNT & TUMBER in Kent and
VAUN in Kent & Essex ENG, France & Australia.

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 August 09 10:54 BST (UK) »
Siodetracking a bit - but out of interest I noticed Catherine was a widow at marriage

This look slike her in 1871 with first husband - I wonder what happened to these two children?

RG10 980 117 35
Teynham, Kent

William Gilham 28 Ag lab bn Teynham
Catherine 20 bn Sittingbourne
James 2 bn Mitton?
Emma 6 mths bn Teynham
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:00 BST (UK) »
1881 shows two more Gilham children

1881
RG11 971 116 33

Joseph Vaun 37 brickfield lab bn France
Catherine 31 bn Sittingbourne
James Gilham 12 son bn Milton
Emma Gilham 10 dtr bn Teynham
Ann Ada Gilham 8 bn Teynsham
Sarah A Gilham 2 bn Teynsham

and 1891 that you have listed (RG12 1372 79 13) also has Sarah Gilham, aged 12, stepdaughter there.

maybe she is the "other" survivng sibling
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

All of the 4 children listed, married.  The youngest of the 4, Sarah Ann GILHAM, was born in 1878 a year before their father died of tetanus.

James GILHAM married Emma HUBBARD and may have ended up in Surrey.
Emma GILHAM married Albert ROGERS and lived a few doors away from her mother & stepfather in Barking (1891) & Ilford (1901).
Ann Ada GILHAM married John SAMS
Sarah Ann GILHAM married Herbert DOCKRILL (from memory Amy Ellen Vaun may have witnessed her marriage).

There is also infant William John GILHAM who died in 1877.

bye
Maxine
Researching DARBYSHIRE at Ashton upon Mersey & Sale CHS,
HAMPSON at Stretford Lancs,
KINSEY & BASKERVILLE at Knutsford CHS
MOUNT & TUMBER in Kent and
VAUN in Kent & Essex ENG, France & Australia.

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:22 BST (UK) »
So what is it you are wanting to know? I thought you were trying to see if any others lived to adulthood ( I was just finding Sarah's marriage, and her on 1901 RG13 1658 110 14) but it seems you have them all!!!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 August 09 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

This is what I'm seeking  :)
-the baptism of 3 children and the burial of 2 of those.
1885 Joseph Cephas VAUN, Shoeburyness, dec'd 1887
1887 Eliza Amelia VAUN, Prittlewell
1889 Albert Henry VAUN, Prittlewell, dec'd 1889.
-look up of the parish registers at Shoebury & Prittlewell mentioned in my 1st email.

I excluded information concerning Catherine Vaun's 1st marriage [GILHAM] to concentrate readers on the second marriage in 1880 to Joseph VAUN and the children of that later marriage.

My comment, A female sibling of Amy Ellen & George Frederick VAUN lived to adulthood but unknown whether it was Eliza [VAUN] or an unidentified child [VAUN], refers to a full sibling, rather than a step sister, of Amy VAUN & George VAUN and this unidentified female may have been born in 1882/1883 in Shoeburyness.

Hope that clears things up!

bye
Maxine


Researching DARBYSHIRE at Ashton upon Mersey & Sale CHS,
HAMPSON at Stretford Lancs,
KINSEY & BASKERVILLE at Knutsford CHS
MOUNT & TUMBER in Kent and
VAUN in Kent & Essex ENG, France & Australia.

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Re: St Andrew Sth Shoebury & St Mary Prittlewell - VAUN
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Not sure if your still searching? I have been looking for my family from Foulness, Great Wakering.

There is also a St Mary the Virgin on Foulness Island just east of Wakering. I am off there at the weekend to take pictures of gravestones etc. Also Yesterday whilst I was at the Libary (Southend) I found all the baptisims from 1800 to 1926.

Drop me an email if you would like some help etc.