Author Topic: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.  (Read 60472 times)

Offline dochines

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #162 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 07:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for further suggestions. I looked through the High Littleton site at about midnight. Thank you Ray for pointing it out and H for the cholera content!

These Carters are proving much worse than the Smiths. although I was alone sorting the Smiths it has been tremendous to have other enthusiasts on board with the Carters.

I realise I am not the only one who works late at night and early mornings on our hobby!!

I have been looking at Rosina Curtis wife of " my" George Carter born 1845 (son of Reuben and Mary)

Rosina's parents were George Curtis and Susannah Young  George was a stone mason Born in South Molton Devon abt 1804 but was living in Farrington Gurney by 1841

Susannah Young was born in High Littleton about 1806 according to 1861 census

 George and Susanna also had a spell in Glamorgan in 1861 at 1Roderick row Llanfynwyd and in 1871 at 1 Bridge St Comda? Maesteg

It would seem many people from the Paulton area had a time in Glamorgan, I suspect they were made employment offers in the mining industry they could not refuse. does any one know the details of this was it perhaps better mining homes or the same mine owners in both places


dochines

Offline Trees

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,116
  • Can't see the wood for the !!!
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 10:45 BST (UK) »
Ken I live relatively close to Maesteg I think its Cwndu not Comda it means black pit and is near St John's Colliery( a pit I went underground in during my first employment :o locally St Johns was known as Cwm Du Colliery. Llanfynwyd should be Llangynwyd lots of lovely legends about that village I'll pm you about them. We have discovered that in Radstock museum there is an old poster advertising  work in the South Wales mine field we also know that the mines had agents( I have one on my line) who went around the country recruiting labour Once one family had moved it wasn't long before brothers and cousins joined them in a particular area . Most of Paulton folk seemed to head for the Monmouth and Brecon mines look back at the start of this thread and you will find Lisa and Ray are descended from your Martha Hook and they are in the Merthyr Tydfil area After South Wales many headed North through Dudley and on to Durham.
I think you will find this interesting
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,157437.0.html
H
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

For details of my research interests please see
mcmullin.me.uk
Also read the children a story from Story Time at the same web site.

Offline RayDen

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,221
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #164 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 11:19 BST (UK) »
Ken if you google Someset Coal Mining you will see quite a lot of information about mining in that area (the wikipedia site  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_coalfield  is particularly helpful).  It looks like most of the Somerset pits were smaller operations than the big pits of South Wales.  However it also looks like many of the pits in the Paulton area were closing in the late 1800's, so it might have been easier to move to South Wales where new pits were opening rather than move on to existing pits in the Somerset area.
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

Offline Trees

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,116
  • Can't see the wood for the !!!
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #165 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 11:48 BST (UK) »
Ken I am now happy to link your George to Reuben and Mary Robbins. I have now got the 1871 census in Trowbridge has him born in Clandown which is part of Radstock (my only caution against him being Mary Robbin's son was the 1881 census which had his birth as Paulton not Radstock) he has the same children on both 1871 and 1881 so it all links up possitively   Hooray that gets links another chunk of the chart up well.
H
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

For details of my research interests please see
mcmullin.me.uk
Also read the children a story from Story Time at the same web site.


Offline RayDen

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,221
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 17:23 BST (UK) »
[quote author=dochines link=topic=401090.msg3444282#msg3444282 date=1285840729
What do you think of a possible match for Jacob's baptism 1 12 1793 at St Julians Church Wellow son of Benjamin Carter and Ann ( Parish Reg file no 5001 no register number )?
Quote

I am a little worried about the 1793 baptism his census and burial age all suggest nearer 1788

Hi Trees & Ken.  Trees, not to sure that the 1793 baptism is that far out actually.  On the 1841 census Jacob is shown as 50 giving a possible birth of 1791, but as we know 1841 census ages were rounded. I don't have any other concrete info about Jacobs age past 1841.  Its a while since I did anything with the Carters and because I was chasing the Gulliford line as well I have been getting a bit confused (!!!).  However when I have time I will check Ken's suggestd baptism.
Ray
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

Offline Trees

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,116
  • Can't see the wood for the !!!
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #167 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 17:31 BST (UK) »
quick reminder Ray
1841 50  HO107/ 939/18 giving 1786-1791
1851 64 HO107/1939 fo150 p18 giving 1787
1861 72 RG 9/1679 fo117 p34 giving 1789
burial register 1865  78 giving 1787
H
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

For details of my research interests please see
mcmullin.me.uk
Also read the children a story from Story Time at the same web site.

Offline RayDen

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,221
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #168 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 19:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the update Trees, have been reading the postings and my notes to try and bring myself up to date - a few things seem to be out of place for me (I get easily confused these days, particularly with these Carters!!). 
1. I don't seem to have the burial record for Jacob, and
2. I can't seem to find the link between Jacob and Keziah, who Jacob was living with in 1861 and I have identified as his daughter - help please!

Ray
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

Offline Trees

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,116
  • Can't see the wood for the !!!
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 21:19 BST (UK) »
Its called being over tired and over stressed Ray join the club after a day yelling my repeated sentences to a deaf 89 yr old believe me I get very confused.Today I sat between two very deaf old friends as each looked to me to explain what the other had just said Oh boy thank goodness for FH to keep me sane   well good old FH and the Carters ';D'
Here you go;

Kezia Carter's baptism from Free Reg:
Place      Midsomer Norton
Church      Wesleyan Methodist Chapel
RegisterNumber   67
BaptismDate   01 Oct 1826
Forename   Kezia
Sex      F
FatherForename   Jacob
MotherForename   Martha
FatherSurname   CARTER
MotherSurname   HOOK
Abode      Paulton in Paulton Parish
Notes      mother's parents were Thomas and Nanny HOOK; bapt by H. POWIS
FileNumber   10136

Burial of Jacob Paulton free reg
Paulton
Church   Holy Trinity
RegisterNumber   271
BurialDate   02 Sep 1865
Forename   Jacob
Surname   CARTER
Age   78
Abode   Dunkerton
FileNumber   4814

H
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

For details of my research interests please see
mcmullin.me.uk
Also read the children a story from Story Time at the same web site.

Offline dochines

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: CARTER family from Paulton somerset.
« Reply #170 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 21:47 BST (UK) »
Goodness you are quick with replies, whilst I was checking my facts you had replied.

I had not definitely found a death for Jacob either so thank you H

Kezia one of his 12 children first married William Parfitt 20 6 1848 at Holy Trinity Paulton. They had a daughter Sarah Ann Parfitt

William sadly died befor the 1851 census as Keziah is back at home with her father  Jacob, both of them are widowed Also present are several of  Jacobs other children Also present was Matilda Carter aged under 1 month described as a vistor I am not sure who her parents are? ( HO107 P1939 F150 P18)

by 1861 Kezia has married Mark Hall and they have several children Now Jacob is living with Kezia and Mark  (RG9 P1679 F177 P34)

The reason I suggested that Anne Hook married Thomas Broadrib between the baptisms of her grandchildren Kezia and John ie between 1826-1830 is because the maternal grandparents are recorded on the baptismal records as well as parents Martha and Jacob

Hope that clarifies it as i see it now
Best regards to you both
K  Dochines