CARTER family from Paulton somerset.

[toni*]

JUst thinking out loud have you checked the tithe maps for Badgers? and Carters ?

also Tax records it might be worth askign the Local RO what tax records they hodl for Taunton and what epriod do they cover tax has been around for ever

parish rates ditto.

[Trees]

Good thinking Toni* I can see we are going to need a mini meet at Cardiff RO the "check records" list is growing by the Minute
So we need from the RO in Cardiff
Baptism & Marriage records for George and Mary Ann's Children
Look for evidence of local Badgers   sounds like nature study
Death records for Francis,Badger and Carter
Any useful tax and rate records
School records

The Somerset Taunton list is huge as far as Carters goes you might as well do a place study for Paulton !
but it would be interesting to check courts and leases as we know there are some there The jacob lease is worth a chase
I've been thinking about that one it says Jacob a miner from Paulton A small mine owner would be described as a miner wouldn't he( I'm thinking of Mr Blanfield from "Coalhouse" he was a miner but owned the private mine
Trees trying to find a space in the diary asp

[toni*]

i dont know if he would cal imself a miner if he owned the place? would he have said miner and mine owner or the like?

this should be on the tithe maps

[RayDen]

Have just recieved the birth certificate for John Henry Carter born 1 May 1862 (7 month baby?).   He is shown as being born in Withy Mills, Paulton. 

On the 1861 census Withy Mills is where the widowed Jacob Carter was living with his daughter and son in law (Keziah and Mark Hall) and his youngest son HENRY  - is that a clue?

Now I assume that Paulton was small enough in 1862 that there was little difference between Withy Mills and Bloomfield (where Jacob & Sarah lived) but what does anyone else think, or know?

Still waiting for James John birth certificate to see if George is named father, was expecting today but will be next week now.

Regards

Ray

[Kvilhaugveien]

I'd guess there is about a mile and a half between Withy Mills and Bloomfield.

Colin.

[RayDen]

Whilst I have not got a birth registration I have a burial for a Annie Carter (age 2) 9 Dec 1886, daughter of George and Mary Ann.

Also burial of David Joseph Carter (age 2) 18 Jan 1871 son of George and Mary Ann.

Also Burial of George Carter (age 55) 10 Feb 1883.

All Pentwyn Cemetery, Fochriw.

I am so please to have found these!!

Regards

Ray

[RayDen]

If James John Carter (Badger) married the Julia who was Sussanah's daughter this would (I believe) pretty well rule out George being the son of Jacob and Martha.  However can I offer another option.  There was a Julia Carter born abt June 1861 to Issac Carter amd Mary Dando (M.march qtr 1853).

Would need a marriage certificate to confirm but seems more likely.  In 1881 there was a Julia Carter (born Paulton 1860) a servant to James Titley in Bathwick.  How she got to Merthyr?

[Kvilhaugveien]

That was MY Julia (actually born 1957).  James Titley's family business was also where my Mum worked much later on.

Colin.

[Trees]

Sorry folks I had a day off .(lovely Prom Albert Hall)

Ray why does it rule out Julia daur of  Susannah Its not unknown for cousins to mary
I think the birth of John Henry in Withy Mills was quite likely to have been in Keziah's house she seems to have taken over the Matriachal role after her mother's death so it would be natural for George to turn to her to help with the birth as Mary Ann's own mother was dead. I think it adds yet another pointer to George being son of Jacob and Martha

I have from Bath BMD
Death
CARTER   Julia   0   Clutton   Bath   CLU/8/122   1862
birth
CARTER   Julia   Clutton   Bath   DANDO   CLU/12/323   1861

However to add to the fun we had this daughter of Henry Carter and Keziah DANDO married 25 Dec 1848
Isaac CARTER married  Eliza PROVERB and Mary DANDO dau of Charles Dando marries Soloman DANDO son of Thomas (fathers given in Yahoo transcripts) from Bath BMD in 1853 don't forget the Bath BMDs tell you who married who the Free BMDs give the qtr and everyone who married on the page but doesn't pair them

Trees