CARTER family from Paulton somerset.

[RayDen]

Just back from Fochriw cemetery.  Have found all the Carter graves, including John Henry (1862) and his wife and some of his children.  Have photo's.

Not entirely sure about Mary Ann, the headstone does not say if she is buried with George and the children.

I also believe I have found why we could not find a birth registration for Annie. Annie is buried with George, and shown as his daughter. However George died 10th Feb 1883 whilst Annie was buried 9 Dec 1886 at age "2 years and 3 months".  This would mean her birth date would have been around August 84 (about 20 months after George died).  Was John Jenkins her father?

[Trees]

Umm looks like John Jenkins was Ann's dad doesn't it.
Do you think Edward was in jail at the time of James and Rebecca's marriage so rather than give his father and mention occupation "prisoner" he thought omition was the better option?

[RayDen]

Trees

Great minds and all that, exactly what I was thinking.  Also if had been upsetting the local Iron and coal masters perhaps James was placing some distance between him and his father.

[Trees]

One of my married in families changed from Osbaldeston to James after a term in Debtors prison is that why Edward seems to disappear has he changed his name completely?

[astley7]

Hi all I dont think Mary Ann is burried with george I have all the inscription of the Carter graves and I Personally i dont think she is.

Edward was not in jail when James and Rebecca got married I have the crime records and entries for all Badgers 1800 - 1870. for glamorganshire.

Personally I think that Edward died in prison or didnt come back to Merthyr. I also think Edward was his middle name, Perhaps martha was a Margaret

[Trees]

Did you notice the Charles baptised to Edward and MARIA in 1927 in the Pontmorlais Wesleyan was that the same Edward and was Marta Maria or was there a  second marriage? Charles' father was a currier a worker with horses not a nailor
Trees

[astley7]

Snap thats what I was about to say there is a Charles Badger 1829 born to EDWARD and MARIA Christened Same church as James  More to my thinking a Family unit came to live here.

There is also a Thomas Badger in Aberdare for the time, no other Badgers/family He was a coachman Died in 1810 aged 47 Duffryn. dont know if this links in its a different name so you dont find many in the area.

[astley7]

The last recording we have for EDWARD was a police court charge, in 1849 when he got 6mths yet again for Larceny no other record for him after that.. What prison would he have gone to it dont state in the newspaper only that the Judge didnt not want to hear a statement or a plea, he was just sent down.

[Trees]

then there are John and Ann having children bap in ZOAR Independent Chapel 1811-1820 they had David, John, John, & Margaret don't know his occupation