CARTER family from Paulton somerset.

[RayDen]

Have found 4 bapitisms for children born to Thomas and Rebecca in Marloes:

      Rebecca  29 June   1817
      Martha      5 March 1820
      John        31 March 1822
      Mary         7 March  1813

No sign of a William

Ray

[Trees]

The William should be 1811 from Milford now if we can find a marriage for Thomas and Rebecca perhaps in milford we could be on to something I'll ask on the Pembs board fingers crossed
Was that list from Family Search     C082811      1799 - 1877  Ray?
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[RayDen]

Tree's

Yes thats right C082811, sorry I should have placed the reference.

Ray

[Kvilhaugveien]

When I get back from France I'll post my Carter line in the hope that it might assist!

Colin

[Trees]

Have we decided on James Badger's birth yet Ray has a tree showing him as son of an Edward and Martha but where from? from his death we deduce he was born in 1816 but not having him on acensus is a handicap to locating him and unfortunately there is no father's name on the marriage certificate
The nearest I found in Cardiff was the baptism of a James 26 May 1816 in the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel in Pontmorlais son of William a nailer and Martha we know his children were also baptised in a Wesleyan Methodist Chapel and that he too was a nailer are these clues or red herrings how can we prove or disprove his parentage? Any ideas? We know Rebecca was from Pembroke but as they married in Merthyr they need not have both been from Pembrokeshire

Thanks Colin enjoy the break "bon chance mon amis"
Trees

[Trees]

Ah I have got the 1841 census HO107/1415/ 9 fo 59 p28 and can see why Ray's tree has Edward but I am sceptical about it
After James, Rebecca, Maria, and Mary there is the single / which indicates a different household in the house such as a lodger or boarder( its clearer on later censuses when a schedule number is allocated to other households within a single house.)
The extra person is Edward BAGIN its quite different to the way BADGER has been written this Edward Bagens is born 1781-1786 out of county and was also a nailor now was the Bagens a mistake or not lets see if he can be found on the 1851 census
Trees

[Trees]

Ooh hands up its me thats wrong I've just checked my notes it is definitely Edward and Martha I must have slipped down a line when typing it up sorry folks so is that census entry a slip of the enumerators pen and that is in fact James's father could well be I stand humble and beg forgiveness
Trees

[astley7]

HI all
After a lot of searching down the library the only document I have found for Edward and Martha is James Christening certificate. I have been through every cemetry record ect but to no avail for them both only things I have is what a think is Edward Badger and a girl Ann aged 15 living same house as James 1841 census, And a police court record (the last one could find)  for a Edward Badger MT for 1849 I cannot find the newspaper recording. I have how ever found a 100% match for Edward Badger from Merthyr Tydfil 29th June 1847.  Charged with Larcery within a dwelling house. Convicted of Stealing Pieces of iron property of Sir John Guest of Dowlais Ironworks. 4mths Jail. So we know he was here in the village then. Did he die in prison or didnt brother coming back to MT.
 
I have now complete BMD and christening for named badgers of the Merthyr Area if this is any help to anyone. I have put them on seperate excel sheets and date order I am once again down The library tomorrow as I can see the MT workhouse records if there is anything that needs looking up.
I dont think I am going to like what these records will say ?.
Best wishes
Lisa

[RayDen]

Don't forget we also have the conspiracy trial in 1834 with Edward Badger 51 years and James Badger 18 years.  I know we have not yet seen a report saying the two were father and son, but it looks fairly solid to me.