CARTER family from Paulton somerset.

[krisesjoint]

Hi all interested,

Please see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403184.0.html

Cheers Kris 

[Trees]

thank you both for the details on the Marriage certificate. Llangynwyd parish Church is a lovely little one with many stories
It is the reason why Maesteg Rugby team was known as the four sevens
A mason had to carve 28 on a head stone but was not happy carving curves so put 7777 or 4 sevens
Do you know the lovely folk song Bugeilor Gwyneth Gwyn?(watching the wheat)
It was supposedly written by Will hopkin the local thatcher about his love for Ann Thomas who was forced to marry a higher ranking chap both died young (of broken hearts) she is buried in side the church and he as near to her grave on the outside
A foolish luckless youth am I
loves own commandments keeping
Tis I who watch the golden wheat
another does the reaping

Come o come when true love calls
than all he flowers thou art fairer
And my love grows as thy dear charms
grow fairer yet and fairer

I'll try to get a photo of the church for you if ever it stops raining
Trees

[Trees]

It looks like George was working in St John's Colliery as he was living in the Cwmdu area St Johns was sunk in 1850 on the site of the older shallow pit Cwmdu (black pit) so it was fairly new at the time of the birth of James I wonder if George answered a call for men. The mines had agents that travelled the country recruiting labour apparently there is a typical poster in the museum in Midsomer Norton which is near Paulton. It would answer a few mysteries wouldn't it I wonder what Mary Ann was doing there though so how did they meet did George go to check employment in the Merthyr area and meet her? i doubt we will ever know but it looks like her parents refused permission for an early marriage until the second child was on the way Did he take her to his parents to give birth because her mum was not prepared to look after her they already had one little one so she would have needed help may be she had had problems with the first birth  who knows. Any how it looks like he was working n St John's
I am wondering if he was on nights and got left off the census and the lodger in Paulton was yet another of the many Georges there. It would be strange for him to be a lodger and not living at home wouldn't it. Don't forget the census was of people who slept  in the house on the night of the census.
(By the way St John's was the colliery I went down when I worked for the Scientific Dept of the NCB small world isn't it)

[toni*]

just reading through to see if i can help 

[Trees]

Bless toni your a ***

[RayDen]

Great work Trees.  Just a few points.  I have Mary Ann living on her own with son James (Badger at this point) on the 1861 census.  I am checking a few things out with astley7 but Mary Ann's mother and father may have died by this time.  I still like my scenario of Mary Ann in service in Somerset before being disgraced and sent back to Wales.

The ommision option on the census is good and so is the likely return to Somerset for support for the children (if Mary Ann's mother died).  Hopefully this is what happened because John Henry will be shown at his grandparents house.  Should have the certificate by the weekend.

[toni*]

i'm finding it a bit difficult because of the repeatation (is that a word) of names  - no repitition thats what i was looking for,

can someone sum up where we are at please

 

[Trees]

hang on a min toni and I'll make a summary

Meanwhile
James badger died Set 1846
Liza has her as a widow in 1851 Rebecca Badger was a widow H0107/2458 folio 428 page 45 1851.
and there is a marriage for Rebecca badger in Dec 1851 MT 26 661 one of the chaps listed was an Evan DAVIES now an Evan Davies wife Rebecca is on the 1861 census she born 1817 in Enginetown ???Glamorgan anyone any idea where that was? and in 1871 (this will make toni laught) they are keeping thre LOCAMOTIVE Inn in Llantwit Fadre
this needs checking

[Trees]

Forget what I said about the Evan Davies rebecca The other candidate on the marriage was john Prior and look he is with her in 1851! phew thank goodness not another publican then ( for those new friends I ave about 50 publicans on my tree and we are a TT family