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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 August 09 18:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone you have been a great help
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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 August 09 18:52 BST (UK) »
For info

A baptism record will probably NOT have the mothers maiden name, a birth certificate WILL

A burial record will probably NOT have a date or cause of death, a death certificate WILL

Also informants on birth & death certificates can sometimes lead to other avenues & help with research.

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Jay

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 August 09 18:54 BST (UK) »
Here's the link to DCC BMD index (not yet complete).  You can order via the net & the cost is £7 per cert.

http://www.durham.gov.uk/Pages/Service.aspx?ServiceId=663

Never pay more than £7 for a BMD cert.

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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 August 09 19:24 BST (UK) »
Hi
Can anyone tell me the cheapest and easiest way to get BMD certs. Ancestry
charge 19.95
thanks

Boo drags out her soap box :-)

I get so cross about Ancestry doing this,  £19.95 to get a cert within 16 days and £39.95 for their 'express' service within 6 days? Its extortionate! - and if there is any mention on their site that you can order direct from the GRO for less than half the cost then its well hidden

I have had lots via the GRO online ordering service,never paid more than £7, longest I have waited is a week.
Durham Registrars and Gateshead Registrars are superb and have helped enormously if I am uncertain if I am ordering the correct certificate - again cost is £7.

GRO certs v local registrars certs
you get the same information on them, but often the GRO photocopy the original entry onto the certificate, which makes it look more 'of the time' kind of thing.   The local registrar doesn't usually have the facility to do that and will hand write or type up the certificate for you.

Better get down off my soap box before I get dizzy :-)

Good luck with your research

Boo



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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 22 August 09 19:51 BST (UK) »

Hello again. But!! If it is a Catholic baptism it will have the birth date, baptism date, child's name, both
parents names, maiden name, sponsors names, priest, and sometimes in the margins, who the child married.
When the child marries the church that they are going to be married , writes to the priest to get confirmation that the person is catholic. The priest will then reply and sometimes makes a note of the Church and the date of the marriage.
So quite a lot of information if you are lucky.

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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 August 09 20:10 BST (UK) »

Hello again. I thought I would give an example of a Catholic baptism.

Maria McAninly, born 27/September/1895, baptised 6/October/1895, parents Patrick and Catherine McAninly, maiden name Conroy, sponsors Thomas Lowrey and Catherine McAninly, priest Ft J R Wood,
priests note:- married 22/February/1916 in New York to William Brady.

I know the Catholic records have limitations because they do not go as far back as the church of England records but they can be useful.
Adam

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 August 09 20:30 BST (UK) »
Ah, having no experience of RC records my info refers to CofE & Methodist baptism, & CofE burials.

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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 August 09 22:44 BST (UK) »
All of mine will be C of E or Methodist. I really appreciate all the info
Thanks again to everyone
Cilla
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Re: BMD Certs
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 August 09 10:20 BST (UK) »


 GRO v Local

 Boo wrote "..... GRO photocopy the original entry onto the certificate.... "

 There is only one original entry and that never leaves it's home Register Office.

 As we know, all England/Wales  ROs forwarded copies of BMD events quarterly to GRO. GRO then copied the info into it's own volumes, with it's own filing references.

A "copy" certificate from GRO looks "appropriate" copied onto the format of the original register. But it still just a copy of a copy.

GRO never even got to see the original entry in the orginal register.

Many local ROs do indeed today just copy by typewriting or handwriting the details from the register onto a formatted copy cert.

However , for one, Sunderland RO for many years,  has provided a true copy, I'll call it a facsimile, of the original register entryusing overhead copier.

Thus providing a real picture of participants handwriting. A copy marriage cert from Sunderland showed at least 5 different sets of handwriting. GRO cannot do this as GRO never got to see the handwriting.

In very recent times Durham County Council has centralised all its BMD records, and it too provides "pictures" of our ancestors writing.  GRO cannot do this.


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