Thomas Abraham Linnell born 1871

[karee.bell]

trying to find out now the family of Thomas Abraham Linnell born about 1871 in North Hampshire, He had a sister called Alice.
They emigrated to New Zealand and came via South Africa, I am led to believe Thomas was a baby at the time of this.
They were from Hartford Manor

[Little Nell]

I'm having real difficulty locating Thomas and Alice in the birth indexes.  I think Alice must have been older than him?  Do you have the parents' names at all?

My other difficulty is that I don't know of a Hartford Manor in Hampshire.  I'm wondering if you mean Northamptonshire, which is a different county altogether.  Linnell is a name that I associate with midlands counties of England, rather than the south.

Nell

[jlinnell]

His parents are Robert Linnell and Elizabeth Hill

[Little Nell]

I'm still having difficulty - the information you give is very sparse    Was Alice older than Thomas?  Have you any idea of his parents ages or when the married?  By rights, I should be able to find them on the 1871 census - and I can't.

And I still cannot find a Hartford Manor in Hampshire.

Nell

[trish1120]

Working from what jlinnel has posted;

Robert and Elizabeth LINNELL arrived in NZ ( Auckland) on the "Steinwarder" from Sth Africa 14 October 1864
( I only know this as my G/G/Grandmothers Brother and his  Wife were on board also

Robert LINNELL, 24
Elizabeth, 25
George, 3

If they are Thomas's parents he may have been born in NZ.
There are births;
George Frederick Linnell 1870
Abraham Linnell 1871
Female Linnell 1869
Male Linnell 1873
No parents are shown on index at this time.

EDIT ; there is a Alice LINNELL, 1881, parents Robert and Elizabeth

Welcome to Rootschat jlinnell

Trish

[trish1120]

Hi Nell,
Hopefully Karee will respond to this tomorrow.
And also jlinnell.

I dont have access to Census entries to see if Robert Linnell born c 1840 is from Hampshire.
There is one on the IGI born 1840, Priors Marston, Warwickshire, parents Abraham and Alice.

Trish

[Little Nell]

Expanding the dates to find a marriage gets me nowhere definite....

There is the birth of a George Linnell in Towcester RD in 1862.  He wouldn't be three by the time they arrived in NewZealand, but I can't find another at the moment.  Towcester is in the Midlands - Northamptonshire, not Hampshire.  

Trish - yes I just found the Priors Marston Linnels - lots of them!  Robert was born 1839, registered Southam RD.  Found the family in 1851 too.

Nell

[trish1120]

Waiting till we find what documentary evidence they both have is probably the best idea.

[karee.bell]

HI all, I had completely forgotten I had started this thread.

Okay, Alice Linnell was born in Onehunga, South Auckland, New Zealand in 1881. She died in approx 1985 in Onehunga, Auckland. Living in the same house for over 100yrs.

Abraham (later changed his named to Thomas) Linnell was born 1871 in Auckland, New Zealand.

There parents were Robert and Elizabeth (nee Hill)

I have seen the census records for the Linnells from Priors Masters and they are them, after talking to my 84yr old Grandmother (granddaughter of Abraham b1871) she said that the Abraham and Alice (nee Kettle) are his grandparents.