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Barker Edward Thomas
« on: Saturday 22 August 09 06:01 BST (UK) »
Hi anyone.
I am researching my Father in laws family tree in NZ.  I am trying to track down when Edward Thomas Barker born 30 Jan 1871 in Wellington NZ, came over to Australia.  So far I cannot find anything.  If anyone can help that would be great.

Also ET Barker's father is also Edward Barker and was apparently a Maori but we have no information on him except what is on ET Barker's B/cert, which isn't much.

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 August 09 07:26 BST (UK) »
Hello algrass

  ... welcome to RootsChat.   :)

I'm presuming that Edward Thomas BARKER died in Australia ?

*   Do you have his death certificate ?

Australian certificates generally carry a lot of helpful information, and his death certificate should provide you with an idea of how long he had resided there.

Edward BARKER - [father of Edward Thomas BARKER]

*    Who did he marry ?   

*    Who was the mother of Edward Thomas ?

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 August 09 08:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Lucy2,
Sorry I should have been more clearer.  No I do not have his death certificate as ET Barker died in South Australia, but I have his NZ birth certificate, which states that his father is Edward Barker from Wellington NZ, and his mother as Henrietta Sophia Barker nee Tanis

Et Barker's father was a shoemaker in Wellington.  Et Barker married Catherine Teresa Barker nee Bennett from Mt Gambier in South Australia.

I hope this makes it clearer.

Al

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 August 09 02:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Al

I've done an extensive search but have not been able to find a solitary mention of (the father) Edward BARKER in Wellington or other NZ records.   [Still need to check early electoral rolls - these are not available online].

I'm familiar with some Australian states' BDM records, but alas, know little about those in South Australia.  [There is however information available on RootsChat's Australian board - see Resources section - as to what is contained in SA BDM records].

I do think that if you are going to make some progress, then obtaining the death record for Edward Thomas, would be a good move.

There are very few shipping records that remain, for voyages to and from Australia ... and it's more likely that you would find passenger details recorded at a "port of arrival" (than at a departure point).    Newspapers of the day, often carried such passenger lists ... but bear in mind, that in many, passengers names were not actually detailed - especially if they travelled "steerage class".

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 August 09 03:11 BST (UK) »
Hi again

I tried also to find records for "Mrs BARKER" (Henrietta Sophia)  ... again ... there was nothing available.

Interestingly, and due to some quirky problem the NZ BDM people had with loading information onto their online database, the marriage for Edward BARKER in 1870, shows, only as that  ... i.e. no name has been given for his bride.   ::)

From another source (NZSG Marriages CD), the bride is shown as "Henrietta S. TAMS" (rather than "Tanis") ???   

I found no records for TANIS  ... and whilst there were a few records of other "TAMS" marriages, these were in much later years ... so unlikely to be relatives of Henrietta.

*  Have you tried looking for deaths in South Australia for Henrietta and Edward BARKER ?

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 August 09 03:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu

Thankyou for all your help so far. We assume probably wrongly that Edward and Henrietta died in Wellington.


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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 August 09 03:22 BST (UK) »


Also ET Barker's father is also Edward Barker and was apparently a Maori   ...  but we have no information on him ....

 

Hi Al

Can I also ask, why it is, you think that Edward BARKER was "apparently Maori"  ??

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 August 09 03:24 BST (UK) »
THat is what my father in Law Brian was told of his parents.
 

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Re: Barker Edward Thomas
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 August 09 03:32 BST (UK) »

We assume probably wrongly that Edward and Henrietta died in Wellington.


Hi Al

Yes, there is NO record of a death on the NZ index, for "a Henrietta BARKER".     

There are two "Edward BARKER" deaths (index does not state place of death) ...  1923 - aged 75 - born circa 1848  ... and 1926 aged 81 - bc 1845 :   ???    (No burials found in Wellington)

They seem unlikely though (unless Henrietta moved elsewhere, without Edward) ?

Lu