Ballymena Street, Belfast 1901

[aghadowey]

Now back to your Joseph Green. Do you have his death certificate? it should list marital status (married or widower?) as well as informant (if his widow Esther then the 1960 directory is probably correct).
Ordinarily I would say your Joseph married Esther Briars/Gibney (who was many years younger) and that she died a month before him. However, there is the entry in the 1960 directory which gives a Mrs. Esther Green at the Ballymena St. address.

Do you have any idea who Thomas & Letitia Baird in the same plot as Joseph Green were?
At some point it might be worth looking at that 1935 marriage for Joseph Green & Esther Briars (?) to see their residences as well as his occupation & name & occupation of his father.
The name Minnie Green is mentioned in Esther's death notice- does the name ring any bells?

[calash]

Esther Gibney, according to her birth registration, seems to have been illegitimate.

Patrick Gibney and son Archibald here in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Edward_Street/133561/
Strangely enough, Patrick listed as married 9 years and 1 living child. Since he and Esther were married 1899 does this mean the couple were apart from c1908?

Esther Gibbney & daughter Esther Briars in a separate residence-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward/Marine_Street/132740/
Her entry says married 11 years and 1 living child.

I think this is the daughter Esther's marriage-
Joseph Green to Esther Brien on 17th July 1935 Newtownabbey rehgistration district.
This is the Esther, wife of Joseph Green, who died Feb.1957.

Fantastic, I'll have a good look through it all.  Joseph had 12 children, apparently another 20 out of wedlock.  This is his 4th marriage, 1st wife died in Ireland (Joseph is from Surrey) he was still married to the 2nd and 3rd wife.  At one point is kidnapped two of his children from school in Surrey and took them to Ireland.  The daughter managed to get back to Surrey when she was in her teens.

[calash]

Now back to your Joseph Green. Do you have his death certificate? it should list marital status (married or widower?) as well as informant (if his widow Esther then the 1960 directory is probably correct).
Ordinarily I would say your Joseph married Esther Briars/Gibney (who was many years younger) and that she died a month before him. However, there is the entry in the 1960 directory which gives a Mrs. Esther Green at the Ballymena St. address.

Do you have any idea who Thomas & Letitia Baird in the same plot as Joseph Green were?
At some point it might be worth looking at that 1935 marriage for Joseph Green & Esther Briars (?) to see their residences as well as his occupation & name & occupation of his father.
The name Minnie Green is mentioned in Esther's death notice- does the name ring any bells?

Yes the Baird's, someone in their family knew there was a space and let him have it - no-one was keen on him.  I best order the death certificate

[calash]

Now back to your Joseph Green. Do you have his death certificate? it should list marital status (married or widower?) as well as informant (if his widow Esther then the 1960 directory is probably correct).
Ordinarily I would say your Joseph married Esther Briars/Gibney (who was many years younger) and that she died a month before him. However, there is the entry in the 1960 directory which gives a Mrs. Esther Green at the Ballymena St. address.

Do you have any idea who Thomas & Letitia Baird in the same plot as Joseph Green were?
At some point it might be worth looking at that 1935 marriage for Joseph Green & Esther Briars (?) to see their residences as well as his occupation & name & occupation of his father.
The name Minnie Green is mentioned in Esther's death notice- does the name ring any bells?

I don't recognise Minnie, but could be a wife of one the sons or granddaughter, but with so many children I don't know about - could be anyone

[aghadowey]

Minnie Green is mentioned in the death notice of the Esther Green who died 1957 and may not be connected to your Joseph Green.

[aghadowey]

Back to this-
Belfast Telegraph, 28 Jan.1959: ... (Thursday), to City Cemetery. —Deeply regretted by her sorrowing Son-in-law, Joseph Green, and Grandsons, Jim and Billy, 19 Wensley Street. Gone to join her loved ones. CLELLAND—January ... 1959, at Royal Victoria Hospital, Esther, beloved mother of James Gibney ...

Esther Briars married (1899) Patrick Gibney & had son James (1905) and her son-in-law Joseph Green which fits with daughter Esther Briars marriage to a Joseph Green. Patrick Gibney & wife Esther seem to be separated by 1911 (Esther's illegitimate daughter born 1909). However, above death notice is under Esther Clelland!
Still a bit to sort out yet...

[aghadowey]

Plot thickens- here's a start-
Northern Whig, 9 Oct.1912: A TANGLED SKEIN. Curious Bigamy Case. William H. Clelland was charged, _, with having bigamously married Esther Gibney, or Briars, wife ... being still alive. Thomas Kirk gave evidence of having been present at prisoner's marriage ...

[aghadowey]

Back a bit-
Northern Whig, 28 Oct.1902: ... Harper appeared for Edward O’Neill, the driver of the van, and the police were represented by Head-Constable Sargent. Esther Gibney, mother, said that on Thursday last she was crossing Great Patrick Street. She had baby in her arms, and had hold of deceased ...

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05681/4600925.pdf

[calash]

Back to this-
Belfast Telegraph, 28 Jan.1959: ... (Thursday), to City Cemetery. —Deeply regretted by her sorrowing Son-in-law, Joseph Green, and Grandsons, Jim and Billy, 19 Wensley Street. Gone to join her loved ones. CLELLAND—January ... 1959, at Royal Victoria Hospital, Esther, beloved mother of James Gibney ...

Esther Briars married (1899) Patrick Gibney & had son James (1905) and her son-in-law Joseph Green which fits with daughter Esther Briars marriage to a Joseph Green. Patrick Gibney & wife Esther seem to be separated by 1911 (Esther's illegitimate daughter born 1909). However, above death notice is under Esther Clelland!
Still a bit to sort out yet...

Joseph had sons James b1886 d1969 and William b1887 (haven't been able to find out much about him)