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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 August 09 18:43 BST (UK) »
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There is no evidence that the Daveys were gypsies.


 That's what You think! 'The Book of Bob' begs to differ. Most strongly  8)

Incidentally; The vast majority of names in ye line up there are recorded as having been found attached to Gypsys.

 Perhaps, if ye expand some more, we can help some more?  ;)
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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 August 09 21:40 BST (UK) »
Just so's ye don't think I've run away  ;) Just been getting a few things around here done. I'll be finished presently and shall sit down and examine what ye've said.

 One thing, off the top of my head though? The Suffolk Davey's were definitely listed as Gypsys. Much else of what I've just read above makes perfect sense in this context too.

 Just sort my self out here and I'll be back and able to concentrate  :)

Meanwhile; There are people on here with much faster connections, and who are much better than I at searching records. It would certainly add to the fun if any of them were to join in with a digging session. Some excellent people on here. Who knows what they might be able to add?

 I just refer  to The Book for people  8)
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CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 August 09 22:21 BST (UK) »
 :) Ok, mate. I've just re read what ye've said above and have picked it apart some. Here's what's caught my eye ~ without allowing myself to get too bogged down in the names, for now:

" Herbert Davey was from woolpit in suffolk. "

 And, as said above, Davey is a Gypsy name, found in Suffolk.


" how did mary ann whiteman meet herbert if she was from pevensey bay which is in hastings."

 Possibly his familys 'Circuit' took them down that far. Probably more likely, they'd have 'met halfway' as they each converged on the seasonal fields, perhaps in Kent, eg.


" Herberts Father (William reginald Davey) Was on the 1841 census as an ag lab."

 Most Gypsys, in those days, worked as Agricultural Labourers. Picking, etc. in season. Clearing ditches and so forth at other times.


" Then He goes missing off the census all the way up to 1891 census, so i wonder where he went for that time. "

 Buggers, aren't they? Into some wood, probably. Somewhere the Enumerator wouldn't think or care to look? Or possibly over to Eire? My people used to cross the water.


" my granny used to get told she was gypsy when she was younger. "

Who by? Family or strangers?


" But that family didnt move about at all as u can see by the birth places. "

Such spacial records can actually be misleading. Many Gypsys had a home base. Even a 'house' of some sort. Contrary to popular belief, not all of them lived in a constant cycle of aimlessly wandering the roads and byways.


" her family are described as ''living on the beach''."

 Delicious, isn't it? I've seen that mentioned before, for other people. Fires the imagination, just How they were living there. I'm afraid I have no reference.


" show up as licened hawkers and showmen and living in a showvan. "

Hardly run of the mill nine to fiver's then!


" my granny said she was at a travellers site or somewhere in woolpit when she was young ".

 Now; What did I just say, above ....? ;)


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GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')


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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 August 09 23:46 BST (UK) »
hi, there are davey's and davy's on the woolpit PRs online, not many and not after 1804ish. ie;- david davey - samuel & mary baker. - born 30 sep, chr, 28 oct, 1804/// samuel davey married mary baker 13th oct 1802

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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 August 09 23:53 BST (UK) »
Not a clue,but if you find it let me know. I the meantime ;--  http://www.pbenyon1.plus.com/Den/Woolpit/Index.html#top       

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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 August 09 15:48 BST (UK) »
Steve does your book have any references to any members of the Davey Family who lived in North Cave.  According to the 1891 local census they were Earthenware dealers and Hawkers.......

I cannot find out where this branch of the Davey/Davy family originated from.......

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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 August 09 17:10 BST (UK) »
North Cave, East Yorkshire, I take it  ???

 This book doesn't go into lavish background detail, I'm afraid. But it Does state that the name was found attached to Gypsys, from 1571, and still is today. And, yeppers; It states that Gypsys bearing that name have / are been recorded in " Yorkshire ".

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CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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Re: Davey - Lamb - Whiteman - Suffolk (Woolpit/Elmswell)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 August 09 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve G.........thanks very much for your help........and i do apologise for not being more specific on my posting...:(

You were right, i should have put East Yorkshire. 

Andrew_Bandrew hi, i have actually noticed one or two Davey/Davy families in East Yorkshire have had origins in Suffolk county.  I'll do more checking and get back to you........one family i believe, settled in Skirlaugh - Holderness, East Yorkshire.  Not one of mine though.

By the way.......what does 'wb' mean??