Looking for Fred Price: Born 1895 in Merthyr Tydfil

[shellyesq]

There is the following arrival in New York aboard the Mauretania on August 7, 1908 departing from Liverpool, England.

Frederick James Price
Age: 18
Place of birth:  Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Next of kin:  Uncle, Robert Walters, Adam & Eve Inn, Merthyr Tydfil
Destination:  Des Moines, Iowa

If this is the right guy, you can see this information for free on www.ellisisland.org.  If you take a look at the manifest (you have to click on "Next" to see the first page he's on), there are manifest markings indicating that he applied for naturalization and his immigration information was verified in 1939.  You can see details about manifest markings here:  http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/occ/

One thing to keep in mind regarding the WWI Draft Registration Card - all men of a certain age were required to fill these out, so it doesn't necessarily mean he served in the US military.  It looks like he signed up to serve in Canada on 3 Oct. 1917.  The attestation paper for Canadian Over-Seas Expedition Force has the following - Fred James Price, 608 12th St., Des Moines, Iowa, born Wales (Merthyr Tydfil is handwritten in) on 25 Jun. 1890, next of kin - sister Gertrude Price, 108 Reland (?) Street, Newport, England, occupation -stenographer, not married, 5' 6 1/2 " tall, medium complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, mark on palm of right hand, scar above right buttock, denomination - C. of Christ


I don't think this one was listed before -

Border crossing from Canada at Port Huron, Michigan, 24 Aug. 1913
Price, Fred James, age 23, male, single, coal miner, able to read & write, nationality - Wales, last permanent residence - Montreal, Canada, nearest relative - sister Annie Price, Newport, England, final destination - Mystic, Iowa, in possession of $65, previously in US in Mystic from 1909 to 1913, last departed US in Feb. 1913, going to join friend William James in Mystic, 5'8" tall, ruddy complexion, brown hair, blue eyes, born Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, arrived in Montreal on GTR Laurentia on 23 Jun. 1913

[Arranroots]

The census that Suzard posted earlier had a sister Annie of the right age - so I am persuaded, lol!

 

Shelly - that tells us everything except his inside leg measurement - how wonderful!

Karen - who is he with in 1910?  Does the census tell us his parents' origins in 1910 or was that just later ones?

[shellyesq]

In 1910, he's a boarder living with a family named Brown in Douglas, Polk Co., Iowa.  Fred is age 20, single, listed as born England & parents born England (if the head of the family gave the info, they may not have known the difference between England & Wales), immigrated 1908, alien, able to read & write, not attending school, coal miner

[suzard]

The census that Suzard posted earlier had a sister Annie of the right age - so I am persuaded, lol!

 

Fred was on 1891 census too

1891
17 Wool St
Merthyr Tydfil
Frederick Price Head M 22 Painter Cardiff glam Both English/Welsh spoken
Annie wife 23 Merthyr Tydfil English spoken
Frederick J son 9 mths Merthyr Tydfil
RG12 4437 29 10

there is a marriage freeBMD
Dec qtr 1889
merthyr tydfil
on same page
Annie Walters
Frederick Price
11a 933

and a death reg
Frederick Price
age 28
Sept qtr 1897
Merthyr Tydfil
11a 354

I wonder if Ann jenkins widow age 32 (on 1901 census) is Frederick's mother - who was widowed -remarried to Mr Jenkins and widowed again???

Suz

[RonPrice]

I just woke up, came to do my emails and "Bob's your uncle!" You folks here are incredible. If your efficiency gets out to all the world you will be inundated by the masses. People like me will flock to your site. On a quick scan of these incoming messages this morning on this thread let me say that: (a) the birth date and place of my mother is spot on and (b) all the rest of the items are "a bit iffy" or "a bit tricky," as Aaranroots puts it succinctly on occasion. I will have to get back here after I have: (i) had my morning ablutions and (b) my breakfast. "Cheerio, for now," as my father used to say before he died in 1965 when I was 21 and hardly knew him.-Ron from Downunder in the Antipodes as Australia and New Zeland are sometimes called.

[RonPrice]

If the census of 1891 indicated that "Frederick J son 9 mths Merthyr Tydfil" then this chap can't be my father who was born in 1895 in Merthyr Tydfil or perhaps Cardiff. But he was not born before 1895.

[RonPrice]

As far as "Ann Jenkins widow age 32 (on 1901 census) being Frederick's mother - who was widowed -remarried to Mr Jenkins and widowed again" as you indicated....that hypoethesis is entired possible---I would not rule it out....but it still leaves me in the dark as far as when my father left Wales and arrived in the USA or Canada.

[Arranroots]

To avoid duplication of effort, please note that Ron has another thread here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,415235.0/topicseen.html

[RonPrice]

Apologies, Arranroots. I'll slowly find my way around here and try to avoid this duplication of effort. I appreciate your patience.-Ron