Wm. Brown & Margaret Smith

[susieque129]

My gggg-grandfather came from Ulster, Ireland.  William Brown, born abt 1778 married Margaret Smith.  They left and came to Newport Corner, Hants Co., Nova Scotia, Canada.  With such common names it has been like searching for a needle in a haystack to find anything on them before coming to Canada.

They supposedly came here via ship in the company of friends with the name of Palmer.  My grandfather's middle name was Palmer.  I have even tried searching using the theory of the tradition of naming the first born son after the father's father(or grandfather of the child) and the first born daughter after the mother's mother.

Their firstborn son's name was Hugh Brown and daughter was Sarah.  Not sure if any children were born in Ireland before embarking or not.

Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks;
Susieque

[susieque129]

Their was another family that my Browns travelled with, it was Carson.  So, Brown, Smith, Carson and Palmer all embarked together from Ireland to North America.

Susieque

[aghadowey]

Is there a reason why you've started this thread here? (Co. Mayo is not in Ulster)

Nova Scotia records are excellent- have you searched all possible census records? vital records (including those of the children in case details of parents are listed)? gravestone inscriptions (in case placename in Ireland is mentioned)? local histories of early settlers (in case there is mention of a group coming together from a particular place in Ireland- and then you'll need to trace those families for any clues)?

If you do get the name of a place in Ireland it will still be very difficult to get family information for the period your ancestors were in Ireland.

[susieque129]

Hello;

Sorry, I thought Mayo was part of Ulster...I have checked thoroughly the Nova Scotia resources.  This is a brickwall ancestor.  I have a list of his children, just not sure if they were all born in Canada or not.  I have everything on his children and their families on down, but anything before William and Margaret brings me to a dead stop.

If some were born in Ireland, it would help pinpoint the approximate arrival here...

I realize that a lot of records were lost for this time period, I just thought that it might click with someone's family, that's all....

[aghadowey]

Ulster consists of 9 counties- Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Tyrone (Northern Ireland) and Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan (part of the Irish Republic).
Is it Mayo they're supposed to be from? (if so I'll move this thread over to Mayo board).

[susieque129]

Hi;

I am not certain where they are from in Ireland.  All  local records just say born in Ireland or Irish origins (on census.)  I remember once while researching, finding some Irish records online and found a lot of Browns and Smiths in Mayo with first name repetitions of my family.I can't seem to find those same records or site again.  That was about 5 years ago.

I came to the conclusion that they must be Ulster Scots because they were Methodists and sometimes listed as Prebyterian.   In a book of the history of Newport Corner, (Hants Co., NS) is where the info of who the Brown's arrived with from Ireland comes from, which seems possible as my grandfather's middle name being Palmer...and all info i've found so far on them says they married in Ireland.

You can move it to Mayo if you like.  I know I am taking a shot in the dark, but hoping....

Susieque

[aghadowey]

Your post was under Co. Mayo but since you haven't a clue where they were from I'm going to move it to Ireland-General board.
Generally speaking Ulster Scots were the descendants of Scottish people who settled in Ulster. Methodist settlers, on the other hand, tended to be of English descent and many went to Fermanagh and vacinity but you can't assume any particular county.

[MarilynR]

Good morning. Do you have any descendants for William Brown? I am trying to connect Armanella Brown, born about 1837/38, who married Charles Coffill, to her ancestors. They were also in Hants County. I saw on someone's page that the descendants of William were related to Benoni Sweet's family, which my family also is, so I am really hoping that William Brown is also my ancestor. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Marilyn Redmond

[susieque129]

Hello,  Yes, my Browns are related to the Benoni Sweet family.  William Brown's son, Thomas, married Margaret Ann Sweet.  Thomas being my ggg-grandfather.  I do not have access to my information at this time, unfortunately.

I see that Armanella is buried in Horton, NS.  There are some William Browns there, too.  And, some of the Sweets had settled there, too.  Maybe tracing some of those Browns will lead somewhere.  The name, Armanella, does not ring a bell from my recollection of my information.  Unique names usually stand out to me. 

My Browns settled at Newport Corner, Hants Co., NS.  Horton is in Kings County.  Newport was part of Kings Co originally, though.

Possibly this record of marriage might have her parents listed and where they lived. 

Date and location of marriage from birth registration of son 'Charles Clifford Coffill' (Registration Year: 1868 - Book: 1816 - Page: 61 - Number: 162) - 1859 in Wolfville.

Here are a couple of links to the Horton Cemetery http://ns162212131143.a2dns.com/ns/cemetery.php?cemID=150&pg=2


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=coffill&GSfn=Armanella&GSiman=1&GScid=2420553&GRid=134133638&