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UK soldiers died in Great War
« on: Monday 17 August 09 18:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have found a record which could possibly be my Grandfathers Brother. I have been unable to find a service record. I have a couple of questions: What does it mean by Theatre of War, What does D.C.M mean and where could I go to verify that this is/is not my relative.

Name                  Albert George Crouch
Birth Place          Wood Green Middlesex
Residence           London
Death date         16 Nov 1918
Enlistment           Wood Green
Rank                    L Corporal
Regiment             Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex Regiment)
Battalion             13th
Number                F/1291
Type of Casualty  Died of wounds
Theatre of War    Aldershot
Comments           D.C.M

Thanks for any help

Regards Sue

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 August 09 18:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue

Does this help at all. It is the CWGC.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=536427

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 August 09 18:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Evie

Wow that was quick, and yes it is my Grandfathers brother. Thank you so much for that, I have been searching for weeks

Sue
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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 August 09 18:39 BST (UK) »
The DCM was the Distinguished Conduct Medal but I don't know any details about it. I'm sure there will be lots on google including photographs of one.

I'm sure someone on here will also explain about the medal and the meaning of theatre of war as they are very experienced.

Evie
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 August 09 19:15 BST (UK) »
You can search the London Gazette online and hopefully find a citation for his DCM
The LG search Engine is quite difficult to navigate however there are a few RCs on here that have the"magic" touch and seem to be able to find citations easily hopefully one of them will pick up on this and post it if you cant find it :)

Ady
Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 August 09 21:08 BST (UK) »
Your initial entry must have come from Ancestry who made a pigs-ear out of the transcription for Theatre of War among other mistakes. The Theatre of War should be  France and Flanders.

13th Battalion Manchester Regt.
Formed at Ashton-under-Lyne September 1914 - Kitcheners 3rd 100,000 - to Seaford as Army Troops in 25th Division . but soon went to 66 Brigade, 22nd Division in place of 14th Battalion. November 1914 to Eastbourne in billets. March 1915 to Seaford, May 1915 to Aldershot, Early September 1915 to France. October/November 1915 to Salonika (Greece) 22nd June 1918 left 22nd Division for France arriving Abancourt 11 July. 22nd July to 66th Division and absorbed by 9th Battalion.

1/9th Battalion Manchester Regiment.
4th August 1814 Ashton-under-Lyne: East Lancs Division and in camp near Bury till end of month. 10th September 1914 sailed from Southamton for Egypt arriving Alexandria 25th September. 10th May 1915 to Gallipoli 26th May 1915 formation became 126 Brigade, 42nd Division. End December 1915 evacuated to Mudros. January 1916 to Egypt. March 1917 to France. 19th February 1918 to 198 Brigade 66th Division absorbing 2/9th Battalion becoming 9th Battalion . April 1918 reduced to training cadre. 22nd July 1918 reconstituted by absorbing 13th Battalion (from 22nd Division at Salonika).  becoming 9th Battalion again. 11th November 1918 at Solre -le- Chateau near Avesnes.

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 August 09 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Sue,

I think what Ady means is will I look it up.  ;D

London Gazette Issue 30601, Page 3851, 26th March 1918.

Here is the link:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30601/supplements/3851

If you go back to Page 3843, it will give you the preamble.

Phil
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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 August 09 22:08 BST (UK) »
............. and by the way Sue,

Just to correct the other mistake in Ancestry's version of SDGW:

Born: Wood Green, Middlesex
Enlisted: London
Residence: Wood Green

Phil
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

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Lewisham War Memorials & WW1 Graves

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Re: UK soldiers died in Great War
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 August 09 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Thanks for all the help you have given me with this, I would have struggled to find all that info so quickly.

Would a death certificate have been done for them in France?

Thanks again
Sue
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