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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:21 BST (UK) »
Curiouser and Curiouser indeed!

On the 1881 we have John Love b 1830 Brosley prisoner in Gillingham Kent RG11/897 Folio 64 Page 13

On the 1871 there is a John Love b 1833 Brosley married to a Catherine in Wolverhampton but there is a marriage on FreeREG 10.11.1856 at St Georges Wolverhampton for a John Love to a Catherine Gintry

Also have you thought that the couple he is with in 1851 are his sister and brother in law?

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
A John Love was given 12 years imprisonment by Stafford Assizes on 19.3.1878 for wounding

Unfortunately the entry doesnt give any more information

Catherine is still in Wolverhampton 1881 but without her husband and listed as married

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:46 BST (UK) »
OK working backwards and sideways a bit

Ann wife of James Oliver on the 1851 census

baptism on the IGI for Ann Love 23.3.1823 at Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire parents Robert and Elizabeth

There is also
Mary Ann 3.7.1825
William 9.9.181
Samuel 7.2.830
Marian 13.8.1843
John 28.4.1833

This rules out the John married to Catherine as his father was Thomas

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:47 BST (UK) »
Curiouser and Curiouser indeed!

Also have you thought that the couple he is with in 1851 are his sister and brother in law?

Willow x



But according to the marriage records he didn't get married to Susan Turner until 1857. However there are Turners at the same place so I wonder if he was working away and possibly met a relative of Susan who introduced the two of them since in 1861 it looks like John and Susan were living next door to Susan's parents. Also John and Susan called one of their sons Hezekiah which is one of the names on the 1851 census. It looks like John had moved over to Staffs for work reasons.
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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:48 BST (UK) »
OK working backwards and sideways a bit

Ann wife of James Oliver on the 1851 census

baptism on the IGI for Ann Love 23.3.1823 at Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire parents Robert and Elizabeth

There is also
Mary Ann 3.7.1825
William 9.9.181
Samuel 7.2.830
Marian 13.8.1843
John 28.4.1833

This rules out the John married to Catherine as his father was Thomas

Willow x

Robert and Elizabeth are the names of the parents of the John I have been looking for. If you don't mind me asking where did you get this info from.

I appreciate greatly all this help!
Kev
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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:52 BST (UK) »
Hiya Kev

Off the International Genealogical Index (IGI) http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

Its not complete but very useful. The John who married Catherine was baptised 3.6.1832 Broseley parents Thomas and Sarah

Glad to help  ;D

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 15:02 BST (UK) »
With that info we have

1841

Jackfield Broseley Shropshire

Robert Love 40 collier
Elizabeth 40
Ann 15 labourer
Samuel 10
John 5
Rebecca 5

all born in county

HO107/Piece 928 Book 4

off the IGI Robert Love married Elizabeth George 4.2.1821 Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire

forgot to say the Wolverhampton info off FreeREG http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl and Wolverhampton History site http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info and help, I only live a couple of miles from Broseley so a weekend visit may be called for!

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 15:11 BST (UK) »
Glad to help other have done the same for me in the past on here

I think that Robert and Thomas (father of the other John) may be brothers.

It might be worth dropping an e-mail to Stafford archives to see if they have copies of the Stafford Assizes records. If you can pin down more details of which John was sentenced it might clear things up further. I'll keep my eyes open in the meantime

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