Black Country (Bilston) friends and nieghbours - more names 2

[DudleyWinchurch]

Hi Samanthapom,

Welcome to the RootsChat site.

Can't find any Betts mentioned at Holy Trinity Church.

The cemetery records for Bilston Main Cemetery are on film at Wolverhampton Archives and many people from Bilston were buried there.  If you are unable to access the archives then Wolverhampton Bereavement Services now manage the cemetery and can be helpful.

There were other cemeteries in Bilston but I think that they were no longer much in use by the 1920s.

Are you sure of the date of Amy's death?  There is one listed for 1924 on FREEBMD.  As your Grandad was so young when it happened he must of learnt about his mother from other family members so the information may not have been very precise.

[Samanthapom]

Thanks DudleyWinchurch,

My grandad died years ago so I'm going on information remembered by My Mum & Aunt so the age of my Grandad when his Mum died might not be correct. I had a look an FreeBDM but I can seem to find the Amy you're talking about, it comes up with no matches?  Any idea what I've done wrong?

Thanks once again for your help.

[Samanthapom]

Ignore last post...just found it, thanks.

[Samanthapom]

Does anyone know where I could find out where somewhere was buried? Ive found a death listed for 1924 in Stafford? I would like to find out which cemetary she would have been buried in.

Thanks

[andrew__85]

Many people down the line have looked backward to try and establish the origin, I am not the first and hopefully wont be the last.  I would like to get past the hurdle in our family tree that Bilston has come to represent though.

There is a marriage in Wolverhampton around 1802/1803 between James Bird and Mary Lea.  Following this, there are several baptisms at St Leonards for Charles Bird, Catherine Bird.... upto about 1810.
There is then a death of the above mentioned James Bird in our family bible and recorded as burried at St Leonards in 1834, aged 80.  This gives him a birth date of 1754.  I can not find his birth anywhere!!!

My grand father came up with a theory, that he had travelled down to Bilston (for an unknown reason) from the Berwyn mountains, using the coach road (he refered to it as the Military Road).  Apparently in Bilston the horses would be changed, and therefore James would have had the chance to stop.  I have no idea why my Grand father suspects the Berwyn Mountains, but they are on this road (apparently) and in 1950, the telephone book did show a Charles Bird living at Plas Tanat, which also lies on this road. 

I'm not sure if the story of the evidence came first, and therefore, I am asking anyone with sometime, and an open mind, to try and find James Bird for me, a possible reason why he might have moved to Bilston, perhaps you have land records, or can get his will.  I have run out of ideas, I'm no longer sure how much weight to give various ideas I have had in the past.  Any objective evidence based approach is very welcome!

Best wishes
Andrew

[DudleyWinchurch]

... and yet more names.

I can now look up A-H in the Bilston, Holy Trinity baptism index, if that's of any use to anyone (covers over 4,500 names already).

[pwhh]

Andrew_85
I can't help with any details on your problem, but, for what its worth...

Why would someone travel from the Berwyns to Bilston?
I suppose there could be lots of reasons, but my ancestor travelled between Bilston and N Wales (not quite the Berwyns, but close), too - at least twice c1800-35.

Do you know James Bird's occupation, perhaps?
There was certainly a connection between the iron foundries in both areas, if that might give a clue...?  I am still researching this and how it affected my furnace-building ancestors, so I was interested to hear about the Military Road story.
As above, not sure whether this will help you find your James Bird, but ...
Good luck anyway!
pwhh

[DudleyWinchurch]

No references to a James Bird in the Holy Trinity registers (very few Birds at all).

Bilston was on the canal network and I think that many workers may have used this to travel around the country as work increased or decreased in the various coal-mines and ironworks, etc.

Meantime, the baptism database for Holy Trinity now goes from A-J but I may take a break before tackling the next tranche.

[DudleyWinchurch]

There is a marriage in Wolverhampton around 1802/1803 between James Bird and Mary Lea.  Following this, there are several baptisms at St Leonards for Charles Bird, Catherine Bird.... upto about 1810.
There is then a death of the above mentioned James Bird in our family bible and recorded as burried at St Leonards in 1834, aged 80.  This gives him a birth date of 1754.  I can not find his birth anywhere!!!

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Transcriptions of St Leonard's registers are on FREEREG at: http://www.freereg.org.uk
and on the Wolverhampton Archives webpages at: http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

I can only see  the two baptisms that you have mentioned above there (Charles 1804 and Catherine 1806).

If you know of other children in the same family then maybe they moved away from Bilston for a while before James final return there.  If you can find out where they went then this may give a clue as to why they kept moving.

It may help if you start by listing all the information about this family that you have from the family Bible.  There were a number of families with a James Bird as father of children baptised in Bilston around that time.