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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:17 BST (UK) »
What will also help us if  you  can tell from  any of  these records where he was born and parents names, we can then see what last census he was on  if  he was from Uk

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:20 BST (UK) »
Kris

the unassisted emmigrants have an arrival for
Benjamin PRUSS arriving 1862  November on the  Balclutha

I have looked at  the record and  the name is very hard to make out

what do you make of it please?

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BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:50 BST (UK) »
unfortunately the unassisted passenger lists provide no information apart from a name.

In this case I see no relevance re this entry as it refers to a trip from Melbourne to Sydney

The name I am not sure of but it certainly not PRUSS

To me if I was looking at something for PURSS I would instantly think it may well be PEARC/SE - Seen a lot of parish registers for this name which could easily be transcribed as something like PURSS in my Cornish parish records, but if Eupham has the name as PURSS in numerous records it may not be the case here - Just my thoughts.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:53 BST (UK) »
I did realise it was not an entry into Australia  but  was rather looking at  a time frame to see when he was here.  Perhaps arriving first into Victoria. 

The name dosen't appear to be Pruss as transcribed but did wonder if it was Purss.

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:02 BST (UK) »
On his death certificate from 1919 he is 82 years old, his parents are Edward Purss and Mary Ann Milbourne and he was born in Liverpool England. He had been in Australia for 66 years so if the info is correct he arrived in 1853. The death certificate states he is not married so his wife had already died.

He married Mary Ibbotson on the 11th March 1865 in Sydney so it is possible he arrived in 1862 and the death certificate is wrong about how long in NSW.

I also have the marriage certificate of his parents (different spelling) Edward Parss married Mary Ann Milburn on the 4th Jan 1838 at St John the Baptist Church in Liverpool. I hope this helps

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Eupham  :)

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:06 BST (UK) »
So his parents married in Liverpool England?  just to clarify

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:08 BST (UK) »
Yes and he was born there a year or two later

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Eupham  just  confirming :D

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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Convict or Free?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 13:26 BST (UK) »
free settler or felon

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