Susan Mary SMYTH(E)

[sheilat]

Susan Mary SMYTH(E) married James CONNELL in Adelaide in 1858. Does anyone have any details about her family? I think her father may have been Bernard and that she may have been born in Ireland.

[krisesjoint]

Hi Sheilat,

Here is the marriage entry

CONNELL James 26 Single father John CONNELL = SMYTH Susan 22 single father Bernard SMYTH 3 Nov 1858 St Patrick Adelaide Dist Ade 36 82

Cheers Kris 

[sheilat]

That was fast! Thank you!
SheilaT

[krisesjoint]

There are two births recorded to Bernard

SMYTH Mary 28 Dec 1853 not recorded Dist Ade 4 267 parents Bernard SMYTH and Margaret SLATTERY
SMYTH Sarah 16 Sep 1858 Bagots Gap Dist Kap 14 171 "

Cheers Kris  

[sheilat]

Thank you. I have a note that Susan Mary Smyth may have been born in Cavan, Ireland, as was her dad, Bernard.
SheilaT

[krisesjoint]

Sorry - should have checked further - this could not be her parents.  

From the BISA

SMYTH Bernard b c1816 Belfast Ireland died 21 Aug 1894 Laura SA arrived 1840 TOMATIN occupation Farmer residence Nairn, Freeling, Bagots Gap and others religion RC
married 23 Aug 1852 Mt Barker SA Mgt nee SLATTERY parents John born May 1820 Kerry Tipperary Ireland died 19 Jun 1907 Laura SA children Mary 1853-1917, Joseph 1855-1912, Sarah NOONAN 1858-1933, Mgt Gallivan 1860, Ellen 1863

He arrived alone

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1840Tomatin.htm

Here is the Connell entry

CONNELL James born about 1828 died 19 Mar 1884 buried Navan SA residence Adelaide, Gilbert, Navan religion RC
married 3 Nov 1858 Adelaide SA Susan Mary nee
SMYTH/SMITH born 1835 died 26 Aug 1913 children Patk 1869, child 1872, Francie 1873. Joseph 1878

Kris  

[sheilat]

Hmmmm. If Bernard Smyth married Margaret Slattery in 1852, that can't be Susan Mary's mum, since Susan was born about 1836. I wonder if that's the right Bernard Smyth? Or maybe a second wife to Bernard? If he's the one on the ship Tomatin in 1840, he should have had his child with him. Very perplexing! Thanks for all your efforts. At least I'm narrowing things down.
SheilaT

[krisesjoint]

Hi Sheila,

I have been hunting for anything further to no avail.

Sorry - should have checked further - this could not be her parents.   

I did realise when I found the marriage followed by the arrival alone, that this was not Susan's parents. As you say, I also wondered if he may have been a young widower but there is no child with him. This Bernard's father was not recorded at marriage. (That marriage was in Mt Barker)

Looks like there is a second Bernard marrying at St Pats I wondered if may have been connected but alas he lists father as George

SMYTH Bernard 26 status not recorded father George = OCONNELL Catherine 19 status not recorded father Martin O'Connell 16 Oct 1864 St Patrick Adelaide Dist Ade 60 250 - No births or BISA entry listed

I do not see Susan's arrival in SA. Looking for anything further re possible siblings all I have found is

SMITH Terence 22 status not recorded father Bernard SMITH = CONNOR Cecily 22 status not recorded father Peter CONNOR 22 Aug 1856 Penrice Dist Kap 27/211

Sorry I do not seem to be finding anything helpful

There is no death listed in SA for Susan's father Bernard.

Cheers Kris 

[tropicalj]

I can see only  one son's birth registered.

Joseph CONNELL born 15/1/1878 at Navan book 193 page 416
father James Connell  mother Susan Mary Smyth

James and Susan Mary Connell are buried in  the Navan Cemetery
and by  the headstone so are two sons
Joseph died 16/2/1943 by  his headstone aged 65
John died 14/11/1930 aged 71

Jenn