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brick wall
« on: Sunday 16 August 09 21:41 BST (UK) »
hi i wonder if anyone can help i seem to  have hit a brick wall trying to find my grandads mother after her marrage in 1907 her name is elizabeth morris and she married william jones in llansilin church on there wedding cert it says william came from pont meibion and his father name is thomas i have looked on the 1911 census and cant find them at all also trying to get the right marriage for my gt gt grandfather john morris to elizabeth jones tryed a couple but they where not the right ones on the 1911 census its he was born Llanshaisdor yni nr mortmouth and elizabeth was musoyda cynuryd yu monmouth i think this is in welsh(please forgive me for not knowing) as in the 1881 census it says something differant i think they got married in the 1870s time as again in 1881 census they have a child mary born 1878 and a son james 1879                                   

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Re: brick wall
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 August 09 23:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Glyn,
           I've got no answers to your requests, sorry, but you might get better answers by making a separate post on the Monmouthshire board for info in that county. I imagine the place-names you mention may have a Welsh origin, but they're nothing I can make sense of. I think you need a little local knowledge.
                Best of luck,
                                     Pinot  :)

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Re: brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 11:51 BST (UK) »
For the John & Elizabeth Morris part of your post, if I've got the right family on the 1881 census then they are living in Llansilin, Shropshire and the birthplaces are:-
John - Llanrhiadar, Denbighshire (probably Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant which is close to Llansilin)
Elizabeth - Cynwyd, Meirionethshire (there is a Cynwyd just outside Corwen which used to be in Meirionethshire and now is in Clwyd)
Mary and James - both Llarmon, Denbighshire (probably Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog which again is close to Llansilin)

So maybe their marriage would come under Corwen. There is a John Morris and Elizabeth Jones on the same page for Corwen in 1875. Could that be them? These are the BMD index details:-
Year: 1875
Quarter: Oct/Nov/Dec
Distrcit: Corwen
County: Denbighshire, Meirionethshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 683

Cheers,
Gwyn
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Re: brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 12:02 BST (UK) »
Also, if you check google maps there is a Pont Y Meibion just a couple of miles up the road from Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog.
Benbow - Montgomeryshire
Breese - Montgomeryshire
Howe, Gardiner - Suffolk
Rowcroft - Cheshire/Derbyshire


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Re: brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 19:26 BST (UK) »
thanks for that I will have a look
glyn