Hayton in Hutton (or possibly Helton), Westmorland

[ChrisWest]

One possibility is that she may have been born and baptised elsewhere, but the family moved to Hutton when she was a child and this was where she grew up and though she was born.

Could it be possible that she was a widow when she married, and therefore Hayton is not her birth surname? Have you checked the original record?



 

[Janeada]

Thank you ChrisWest.  The possibility that Betty was born elsewhere then brought to Hutton as an infant had occurred to me but I was hoping it would not be the case. Where would I start searching?    At a later date there is usually some other bit of documentation to give a clue but in the mid 18th century virtually nothing but the parish registers.

The original record of the marriage was checked but not by me. I live a long way from Kendal so most of the research into the Fisher family had to be done through a third party. However this particular marriage entry was checked by the people at the Archive and I think they would have said if Betty was a widow. I'll have a look for the paper report I had just to double check.

Janeada.

[ChrisWest]

Previous messages have talked about Old Hutton, New Hutton & Hutton Roof.

Have you considered Priest Hutton?

[Janeada]

ChrisWest,

Where is Priest Hutton? 
I've never heard of it before and I can't find it in Parson & White.     

However I did find some "Huttons" in Cumberland - Hutton-in-the-Forest and Hutton End where there was (? is) a country seat Hutton Hall. These are, according to the directory about 5 miles north-north-west of Penrith. Maybe Betty just got her counties in a muddle and didn't differentiate between Westmorland and Cumberland; doing her bit to prove that women are no good at geography  

Janeada


P.S. I've been looking at maps since I wrote this. Hutton End is indeed NNE of Penrith but there is also Hutton almost due east of Penrith very near to Penruddock and there is another Hutton Roof (Grid: 3734) which was in Cumberland but is now in Cumbria as well as the Hutton Roof near Kendal.

[ChrisWest]

Priest Hutton, known as Hutton, is just south of Burton-in-Kendal, on the border of Westmorland and Lancashire. Nearest Parishes are Burton-in-Kendal and Warton, but still no IGI entries.

[Janeada]

Thank you ChrisWest.

I've found Priest Hutton on the map. It is and always was, I think, in Lancashire which is why it doesn't feature in Parson & White and probably why the people at Kendal Archive didn't mention it either. The present church is shared between Priest Hutton and Borwick but it looks as though the whole area was once in the parish of Warton.

Janeada

[Janeada]

Hi,

As many of you will know FindMyPast have recently added Westmorland to their 1851 census collection. I tried looking up my Edward and Betty Fisher but could only get the transcription. The image appears to be having teething troubles and refused to download.

Betty Fisher was Betty Hayton before her marriage and FindMyPast have interpreted her birthplace as "Hetton" Westmorland. I don't think there is any such place but there is a Helton between Kendal and Penrith and the IGI has a baptism for Elizabeth Hayton at Askham (which will be the parish) 16 November 1775 the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth. This would make her nearly ten years younger than she said she was. Does anyone have access to Askham Registers and would they be kind enough to do a quick look-up for me please?

Janeada

[Janeada]

Have found a copy (transcription) of Askham PR on-line.  Unfortunately it wasn't very helpful giving no more information about the baptism of Elizabeth Hayton than the IGI entry.

The name Hayton is mentioned several times in the parish register:

John Hayton of Shap married Mary Holme o.t.P. 16 April 1702

William Hayton married Elizabeth Hoggart in 1775. I didn't see a baptism but their daughter Ann was buried in 1793 aged 14 years; her father was described as Wm Hayton of Hilton, Carpenter.

There was also a John Hayton, Weaver at Helton. He married Agnes Hill in 1797 and they had at least two children, Mary in 1797 and John in 1803. Agnes Hayton aged 34 and John Hayton aged 10 days were buried four days apart in April 1803.
John Hayton, widower, then married Ann Mounsey in July 1803.