Taylor, Wood, Woods, Wigan, Sheffield Downall Green.

[tibby5911]

I am in Edinburgh and a real novice to genealogy. I am having massive trouble getting very far at all with my English ancestors.    My father was John Lysaught Taylor, his father was Herbert Taylor born 1895 ?died in the early 1940's.  Herbert's father was James Isles Taylor, don't know when he died but know he is buried in Downall Green Cemetery in Wigan.  My father (John) Mother was Lilian Wood or Woods born about 1895 ?  When Herbert died, she married his brother Walter.  Lilian died late 1950's.  Any information at all would be wonderful. 

[Tati]

Hi Tibby,

This seems to be the reference for Herbert and Lilian's marriage:

Jun 1919 Ecclesall Bierlow 9c 1106

The actual certificate would show her ages and father's names.

In the meantime, I can see only one James Iles Taylor:

1881 census:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06wm/
RG11/4842 35 63

By 1891 the family are in Pemberton Lancashire and there's a son Walter born ca. 1891. I'll post the details when I have found them in 1901 and confirmed that they also had a son Herbert 

[Tati]

Yessss 

1901
RG13/3572 144 23
Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire
5 Park St
4 rooms occupied
James I Taylor, head, 50, Coal Hewer, b. Lancs Swinton
Annie, wife, 46, b. Yorks Moulton
John T, son, 20, Coal Hewer, b. Yorks Skelton
James I, son, 16, Coal Hewer below ground, b. do.
Edith, dau, 15, b. do.
William E, son, 13, b. Lancs Pemberton
Walter, son, 11, b. do.
Herbert, son, 6, b. do.
Thomas, son, 2, b. do.

[tibby5911]

Thanks for all your help, so soon.   I did make one mistake, Lilian Died a bit sooner, maybe the late 1940's.  Thanks again. 

[Tati]

1891
RG12/3063 130 45
Pemberton, Lancashire
Newtown
26 Albert St
4 rooms occupied
James Taylor, head, 40, Coal Miner, b. Lincolnshire Sibinshead?
Annie, wife, 36, b. Yorkshire Molton
Rhoda, dau, 17, Labourer at Pit Brow?, b. Lancashire Pemberton
Mary A, dau, 16, ditto, b. do.
Richard, son, 13, Labourer in Coal Mine, b. Yorkshire Skelton
Ruth, dau, 11, scholar, b. do.
John I, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Mabel, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
James, son, 6, scholar, b. do.
Edith, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
William, son, 3, b. Lancashire Pemberton
Walter, son, 1, b. do.

[Tati]

Sorry but I don't think I'll be able to pinpoint Lilian's death without having more details - at least a pretty exact date and place of death 

In the meantime I've traced James Iles Taylor back

Birth registration
Iles Taylor Dec 1851 Boston 14 279

1861 census
RG9/2340 72 17
Sutterton, Lincolnshire
Kirton Fen
John Taylor, head, mar, 35, Ag lab
Thomas, son, 11
James Iles do., son, 9
George, son, 7

All born Swineshead

[Tati]

I suspect that this is James' mother in the same 1861 census:
RG9/2339 22 20
Swineshead, Lincolnshire
Thomas Taylor, head, 66, Ag lab, b. Pottershale (something)
Thoda, wife, 63, b. Swineshead - blind
Ruth, dau, unm, 24, Dress Maker, b. do.
Ruth Taylor, dau, in law, mar, 35, **ay Maker, b. Sutterton
John Taylor, grandson, 5, b. Swineshead
William, grandson, 3, b. do.
Mary, granddau, 2, b. do.
Rhoda, granddau, 2 mo, b. Sutterton

According to the 1871 census, at least the grandchildren John and William belonged to the unmarried daughter Ruth. Interestingly, John age 5 was John Iles Taylor - must have been a family name in the Taylor family.   

[judi2632]

1881
James Iles Taylor  29    Ironstone Miner Twineshead, Lincoln
Annie Taylor    25     Ironstone Miners Wife Molton Yorkshire
Rhoda Taylor    7 Pemberton     Lancashire
Mary Ann Taylor 6 Pemberton  Lancashire
Richard Taylor    4     Lingdale     Yorkshire
Ruth Taylor    2     Lingdale     Yorkshire
John Thos. Taylor     Lingdale     Yorkshire

1 Dixon St

As I had typed it thought I would post it

Regards Judi   

[Tati]

The other children were John's James' siblings apparently:

1871 census
RG10/4853 95 13
Brotton, Yorkshire
John I Taylor, head, 45, Ironminer, b. Lincs Swineshead
Susannah, wife, 48, b. Cornwall Landcar**
James I, son, 19, Iron Miner, b. Lincs Swineshead
Mary I, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Rhoda, dau, 10, b. do.
John, son, 7, scholar, b. Yorks Redcar
William, son, 5, scholar, b. Yorks Rosedale
Pamlan? Knuckey?, stepdau, 6, scholar, b. Cornwall Four Lanes
Nathaniel Martin?, boarder, 26, Iron Miner, b. Cornwall Gwennap
John do., boarder, 22, Iron Miner, b. do.
Francis W Rose, boarder, 19, Pit Fireman, b; Yorks Boweston?