1891 census-missing BALDRY family

[dragontree]

I've been working on a problem around my great-grandmother, known as either LILIAN M, LILIANE M, or LILIAN MARY, born 1889 in Ipswich, Suffolk. The only reference I could find was the 1901 census, where she's listed as 'stepdaughter' to the head, WALTER G FINCH. The wife, I assume her mother, is given as CHRISTIANA G, born 1858 in Poplar, London. However, I've now found out this information, which I am fairly sure is right:

 CHRISTINA JANE MORRICE was born 1858 in Poplar, London.
 JAMES WILLIAM BALDRY married CHRISTINA JANE MORRIS (MORRICE) 1883, London.
 In 1889, LILIAN MARY was born. In 1890-91, EDWIN JAMES was born.
 JAMES WILLIAM died in the first quarter of 1901. CHRISTINA re-married to WALTER G (GIBBON) FINCH in the same quarter of 1901.

However, my problem is I can't find any reference to JAMES, CHRISTINA, or LILIAN in the 1891 census, which of course would confirm a lot of the above theory before I buy certificates etc. Can anyone advise me on this? Thanks!

 

[Necromancer]

1891 - RG12/1466; Folio 108; Page 7 - Ipswich, St Matthew
Ipswich Western - 84, Norwich Road

 
James W Daldry [sic] 26  Head Tobacconist & Assurance Agent London, St Pancras
Christina J Daldry 33  Wife London, Poplar
Lilian M Daldry 2  dau Ipswich
Edwin J Daldry 4/12  son do

Alice N Prast 14  General Servant Ipswich

[dragontree]

Wow! Nice work! That must be them. But I'm using the records on Ancestry and how in the heck did they get JOHESHRIA outta CHRISTINA???

[Necromancer]

BTSOM !   

[dragontree]

LOL! Me too, but I've submitted the changes. What were the references you included btw? I can only work online and I've not come across them b4.

 Thanks again. That missing piece had been driving me batty. Thanks to that and the misspelling of her name AGAIN in the 1901 census (Christiana G) it took me almost 7 hours to get her family sorted. Never woulda found that 1891 ref. without you! Kinda nice, cos it means we now know my grand-dad was named after his father and uncle.

[Necromancer]

Sounds good then - they dont make it easy do they ! 

The references shown are the formal way of uniquely Id'ing a Page; - in Ancestry you will see them towards the end of the transcription page.

On the Enumerators Page image, the PIECE number is shown in a 'box' laid on the original page, for identification as to the District / area etc.


So the reference breaks down as follows:-

RG12 -  1891 census

1466 - the PIECE number (when all the returns / pieces of paper were gathered together for a District / area, twas called a PIECE)

Folio 108 - prior to microfilming, a Folio number was stamped on alternate pages in a PIECE / District, so you might get multiple identical page numbers, but the Folio stamp gave a more unique refn ....

Page 7 - usually pre-printed on the Enumerators page onto which he copied the schedules completed by the Householder

 

[dragontree]

Ah, right. Thanks. I've now picked up James in the 1881 census (birthdate 2 years out but the right parish and the only J Baldry there at the time) I'm not too worried about 2 years, after JOHESHRIA! Can't find him in 71, yet, but I will.