Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall

[Ann Baker]

Hi rae

My mate has been to Paisley library for me.  Not got the paper copies yet but I don;t think your William and mine are same man. Elizabeth Grozet (Grossart in records) did indeed marry a William Robertson but not looking like same one as mine so far.

When I get the poor records via snail mail will scan and send.

Best wishes

Ann

[Rae33]

Hello Ann
Thanks so much for your efforts and please thank your friend for me also. I will be so grateful for any info on Elizabeth Grozet/Grossart/Grosset, and reading between the lines I am hoping you found something on her.  I thought the name was so unusual it would be easy to research but far from it!  I will be so disappointed if I don't link up with your Robertsons though I have been saying to myself not to get so locked in that I neglect other leads. I really felt I was on the right track when I found William the father and a son Alexander on the 1851.

I will be all a-quiver until I see your records, thanks again.

Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

I haven't got them yet - we have a postal strike! They are on their way tho!

Ann

[Rae33]

Thanks Ann - I'll just have to keep gardening to stay occupied till the mail comes in.

Cheers ....Rae

[Rae33]

Hi rae

My mate has been to Paisley library for me. Not got the paper copies yet but I don;t think your William and mine are same man. Elizabeth Grozet (Grossart in records) did indeed marry a William Robertson but not looking like same one as mine so far.

When I get the poor records via snail mail will scan and send.

Best wishes

Ann

Hi Ann - Have you received the poor records yet - would appreciate a copy.
Would also be interested to know what records you found spelt 'Grossart'.
I'm dying of curiosity...
Regards...Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

Been away for long weekend but..... da da daaaaaaaaaaaaaa

They have arrived but I can't get them to scan properly in a format you can read. Cos it's a copy of a copy and the writing is pretty apalling.

So am going to have to transcribe it for you for now.

But she did marry a william Robertson and seems he did a runner. It doesn;t prove they're not same chap btw. If it is he was  a bigamist! Naughty man potentially!

The date she claimed Parish Relief was after my guy married Elizabeth Wylie. Was 1844 but he married Eliz Wylie in 1839.

But his kids names are haunting me cos they all fit. Off to zeddy byes now cos v late but will try and do a trascript tomorrow when get home from work.

Aren't they so annoying these Robertsons!

Ann

[Rae33]

Hi Ann

Thanks for your reply.  Sorry to put you to so much trouble with the transcripts - I do appreciate it. William married your Elizabeth Wylie on 27th Jan 1849 so it could yet all fit together.  I have always felt Elizabeth Grozet died early in the 1840's as I haven't found her on any census. 

Thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards....Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

Ok here we go

She claimed as Mrs William Robertson miaden name Elizabeth Grossart

Dtaed 27/11 1844

Says she married 1830 in Paisley.

He deserted family 10 weeks before claim made

Children Hellen 9, Janet 6, Alexander 4 and Rebecca 2

Said she attended no church and the health of her and the kids was good.

had little or not effects (so sad!)

Now the interesting bit is she was living at 27 Queen St . That's the area where my lot lived - used to live round there meself many moons ago.

I know it's not conclusive but I think my guy and yours are the same one. The kids names too much of a co-incidence. Hellen as in Hellen Barr and she had a sis Rebecca. Shame on him - he did a runner and maybe he did wait til Elizabeth 1 died before he married Elizabeth 2. Sorry I got the year wrong he did marry EW in 1849. Tho he didn't run very far - 2 streets away actually!

So if they were same chap - what happened to those 4 poor kids if she died pre 1849? I can't find her death but then v unlikely sh;d have had a headstone poor lady. The church she;d most likely have gone to has no graveyard but she could be in another one same distance in opposite direction - quite a few of mine are in there - unmarked graves.

If I can get a decent copy of this to send snail mail I will and will play more with scanner to see if can get it better resolution.

Hope this helps. I think welcome to the clan is also in order!

Ann

[Rae33]

Wow Ann!  This is great news and thanks for the welcome to the clan.
It's over two years since I found the family at 33 Castle Street and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, so I'm glad not to have to scrap it all.  I couldn't find William on the 1841 census but often looked at the family at 1 West Brae - only thing was they were aged 25 which seemed a bit young to have married on 30 Jan 1829 - should have been 35.  They had Agnes born in 1830 and apart from her birth record I've found no trace of her, so perhaps she died in infancy. Must have if it is the same William as he and Elis Wylie have an Agnes. Now I have three more girls to look for and no birth records.  Alexander I am happy to report lived till 1897 and had thirteen children according to M-I-L (four died in infancy).
He was a carter from aged 18.

If Elizabeth Grossart's parents are shown on the poor records could you let me know as I have been going over them all with their various spelling.

Thanks so much for all your help

Cheers...Rae