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Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« on: Friday 14 August 09 17:44 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Hopeing someone can help with this one.

I am trying to establish the parents of William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart.

I know they married in Inchinnan on 2 Dec 1774. William's name is recorded as Robison and Elizabeths as Youart. Have looked for them on both Scotland's People and IGI to no avail.

They don't appear on the 1841 unfortunately not are there death certs for them (tho admitedly I didn;t expect there would be).

Anyone any clues?

Ann :)
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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 September 09 04:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Ann
I want you to know I am still very interested in the family of William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart with the hope that there is a possible link to my Alexander Robertson b 1840 in Paisley.  Thought the Ewarts would be easier to find, but again so many.
I have Susanna Robertson ch 1780 in Erskine Renfrew married Robert Miller 6 Aug 1803 Abbey Paisley - 13 children last child Janet Millar ch 29 Sep 1822 Abbey Paisley.  Can't find a death date for Susanna - may have emigrated?
Isabell Robertson ch 1783 Erskine married Matthew Paul 6 Jan 1805 in Inchinnan - 6 children - died 16 April 1866 in 9 King St Paisley. Have her death certificate.
Elizabeth Ewart Robertson ch 27 Nov 1791 Kilmacolm Renfrew married James Millar 2 Dec 1808 at Neilston Renfrew - 7 children - died 5 July 1878 Johnstone Renfrew. Certificate shows her father William's occupation as Ploughman. Maybe his occupation was the reason why the family moved about.
Which brings me to John Robertson ch 15 Oct 1775 Abbey Paisley. Do you have a marriage or death date for him.  I have found a John Robertson married to Jane Crawford 7 Jun 1799 in Inchinnan.  He was a farmer in Ashyards Middlebie Dumfriesshire and Ferrycroft Inchinnan Renfrewshire - nine children born Renfrewshire but some married in Dunbarton and Dumfries.  He died before 1841 and Jane Crawford Robertson and five children and their families emigrated to Iowa c1844.  Another son and family followed later. I found this very interesting as there are Ewarts in Dumfries.
Haven't a marriage or death for James ch 1787 Abbey Paisley as yet.
  Regards....Rae

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 September 09 02:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Rae

Thanks for posting - hadn't forgotten about your William. I still can't find anything that proves my William married Elizabeth Grozet so far. I'm going to see if there's anything in the Poor Records next time I'm home as a last gasp! Also am going to see if can get access to anything in the library as regards the church. I don;t know which church they;d have married in - or even if it will still be there and if it is if would be same denomination. (There's been a bit of swapping about going on in last 25 years or so of buildings)

The Ewarts (with their various spellings) are a pain!

I have Susanna and Robert Miller but because there were others not 100% she's the one - tho looks that way.

Also have Isabella and Matthew Paul - for which there was much more info available. Thank goodness!

Elizabeth haven't looked at yet.

The other children were James born 23/8/1787 (abbey Paisley) for whom I have no death cert but am thinking was either before 1855 or he emigrated - no mortcloth record for him, Robert born 11/7/1796 (again Abbey Paisley).

So far I haven't found a John b 1775 that's connected to William Robertson and Elizabeth Ewart but it would explain the gap between them getting married and William's birth. They married Dec 1774 and William was born 1777 so did they have another child that survived before then or was it one died as infant and not baptised  or is this John the one?

Lol watch this space for the next thrilling installment of the Robertson clan!

Ann

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 September 09 02:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Rae

Thank goodness one of us is awake! Yes have found John! Am jumping for joy now because it means that William's dad wasn;t another William! I know John not easy either but is so nice to have a change!

So I will have a look at our wee John tomorrow and see what comes up!

Ann :D
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-


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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 September 09 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Ann
Thanks for your reply - I had completely missed Robert - as you say so many ways of spelling Ewart.

Looks like James will be hard to track down too.

The first Elizabeth ch 1785 in New Kilpatrick Dunbarton must have died as they had Elizabeth Ewart Robertson born 24 Nov 1791 in Kilmacolm Renfrew. There is a lot on the IGI for her and her family and I have her death certificate and those of two of her daughters - Isabel Laird Millar who married John Barr and Elizabeth Ewart Millar who married James Preston.
The mother Elizabeth Millar and daughter Elizabeth Preston died on the same day hours and miles apart! I can email you copies if you wish.

You will laugh when I tell you I am now finding Robertsons on the OTHER side of our family.

Bye for now ....Rae

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 September 09 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Rae

Apologies not to have been back to you sooner - been busy week. I've not had a lot of chance to look this weej but will see what can find over weekend

Ann :D
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 01:22 BST (UK) »
Hello Ann
I meant to thank you for your offer to check out the poor relief records for Wm Robertson/Elizabeth Grozet when you get a chance - that would be great.

Moving to Wm Robertson/Helen Barr family - did you find a death date for William b1777 - I have it as approx 1852 but nothing definite.

Have a marriage for Helen to John Glassford on 29 Sep 1857 High Church Paisley and have her death cert 2 August 1872 Abbey Paisley.

Have you found a marriage or death for Elizabeth and Jean - I've had no luck there.

Cheers.....Rae

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 01:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Rae

A friend of mine is going to go and check poor records for me. Hopefully that mnioght give some clues re the Grozet connection.

Yes I knew about the Glassfords - have the info for them

Elizbaeth and Jean I have death certs for (scotland;s People). Elizabeth didn;t marry but Jeanie did. She married a William Wylie (am assuming you mean William's b1855 siblings?). If not and you mean his aunts - nope not found anything.

Howeever the Robertsons did have a thing about Canada and it could be they went there. Not looked yet cos been working on another line on dad's side - equal fun Stewarts! Why could I not have had Mc Sporrans or something!

Ann :D
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 01:08 BST (UK) »
HI again Rae

Re Wm born 1777 death - nope all I can say for sure was pre 1855. There is a possible mortcloth record for 1852 but not enought to prove is him at mo.

I am going home soon so hope to be able to get to library and get stuck in. So frustrating to be just 5 hours drive away but not have time to get there!

Ann 8)
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-