frederick albert frowen -woolaston

[ROLYMO]

i am trying to find the parents of Frederick Frowen - born 1871 -woolaston,

i have found him in the 1881 census living in woolaston with his grandparents mary and henry and their children,

i have also found him in 1891 again with his grandmother (now widowed) and grans daughter lizzie (elizabeth) in woolaston

he crops up in 1901 this time with his aunt lizzy (elizabeth) and her husband albert biggs with their children -again in woolaston also there is an edith there born 1890. his gran died in 1896 -explaining him living with his aunt.

i can find no record of his birth -and no record of him before 1881 - and i am trying to find out who his parents were -and why he was living with his grandparents?

i have him marrying alice shillam jun 1910.

anyone able to offer any advice ?

[Tati]

Hi Rolymo,

Birth
Frederick Albert Frowen
Jun 1871 Chepstow 11a 10


 

[Necromancer]

Births Jun 1871  
 
Frowen  Frederick Albert     Chepstow vol 11a page 10


so have you checked 1871 to see if the Frowens had an older son or daughter ?

The fact that he's surnamed Frowen implies a father so named, but very common for a family to take in an illegitimate child of a daughter, who would have implicitly given him her name (note there is nowhere on a Birth Cert that provides the surname of the child   )

I'll have a look at 1871 if you like, but the Cert will tell the story

[Necromancer]

that'll teach me to do all that explanatory typing - sigh 

[Tati]

Sorry Meister 

Do you have access to the 1871 census?

Henry and Mary had a daughter Harriet, age 18 in 1871. A likely candidate for Frederick's mother, I'd say (the more so as 1861 doesn't reveal any other children).

[Necromancer]

take your pick  ....

1871 - RG10; Piece: 5297; Folio: 59; Page: 5 - Woolaston

 
Henry Frowen 45  Head
Mary Frowen 40  Wife
Harriet Frowen 18  dau
Harrey Frowen 15  son
William Frowen 10  son
Hannah Frowen 7  dau

[ROLYMO]

i was toying with harriet being his mother too, but finding her is also proving difficult.
i think the way to find out for sure is to get the cert!

[ROLYMO]

mmmm....now i have found a harriot in 1891 in ledbury -born in lydney in 1852 -lydney could be possible as its very close to woolaston . she is a live in washerwoman and has 2 daughters -fanny (3) and florance ( - but no sign of a husband and she is marked as S and not a widower.

i also have the same lady in 1901 -ledbury again with her daughter fanny.

does this mean she was unmarried ?

i cant find her in 1881 though ?

[Tati]

does this mean she was unmarried ?

Sounds very much like it

How about this Harriet in 1881?
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=7112306
RG11/2582 100 37