LEAHY

[Quaxer]

Janet

Generally abarrister is one who argues the case in court while an attorney is the lawyer you meet at street level. There is probably more prestige being a barrister while there is greater profit being an attorney.

Do you want any information I have about Sir Richard Orpen?

Regards           Quaxer

[Janet Jarvey]

Dear Quaxer

Thanks for that.  Orpen is a name that keeps cropping up, and who knows what it might lead to so yes, if you have time, I'd be interested.

Regards

Janet

[Quaxer]

Janet

Herewith some entrie from my Irish Times source work:
November 30th 1860 on P.1 advert. shows Orpen Sons & Sweeny
On July 15th 1861 is recorded the death of Emily Stack (nee Orpen)
August 15th 1861 an entry for Arthur Herbert Orpen     (no pagination in newspaper at that date)
On November 15 th 1869 the death of Lady Orpen is recorded.
May 6th 1876  P.1 death of Sir Richard J.T.Orpen
The was put up for sale the following year and in 1878 Isaac Butt Q.C> is shown as an occupant.
No.41 was called Kenmare House in a death notice in 1899 but Frederick O'Dwyer in his most useful book"Lost Dublin" states that the actual Kenmare House was in fact at No.35 Nothing I have here supports Fo'D on this point.
He also writes at P.72 that Sir Richard (sometime President of the Incorp. Law Society)bought the house before 1819 .
Georgian Dublin by Kevin Corrigan Kearns  ISBN 0-7153-8440-6 has a useful article on the street in general at P.87

Regards         Quaxer

[Janet Jarvey]

Many thanks for that Quaxer.  I've made a record of all this information for future use.  Hope I can return the compliment some day!

All the best.

Janet

[jgl1959]

Hello,

       Still trying to get more information on John Leahy, b. 1776, of South Hill.  Was he and his descendants Catholic or Protestant?

        Thanks!

        Joe

[Janet Jarvey]

Church of Ireland Joe.

Janet

[jgl1959]

Janet,

     Thanks, and I think I have the whole John Leahy issue resolved.  My John Leahy and Elizabeth Thompson were Catholic, based on their marriage records.  In the Tithe Applotment records from the early 1830's, "John Leahy, Esq" appears several times, including once for Coolclogher, but another "John Leahy", written without "Esq" also appears.   Everything points to these being two different individuals.  My John Leahy was apparently from "Glenns", which I take to be the townland of Glen in nearby Killaha.

     Thanks so much for your patience - I was happy to have this resolved!

     Joe

[Janet Jarvey]

Hi Joe

Glad you're making some progress.  You sound relieved!  I urge you though to read the essay on the people of the glens I mentioned earlier, try to avoid 'taking' anything to be anything until you've covered as much ground as you can. You'll be surprised at the difference between Glen and Glenns.

A couple of years ago I wrote a short history of the Tullaha/Killaha area relating largely to the O'Donoghue family that dominated the area but I think all copies are gone.  If I find one I'll copy it for you.

Janet

[jgl1959]

Hi Janet,

         Yes, I am starting to make some progress.  You're telling me about the John Leahy, Esq. being Church of Ireland was a relief - an easy way of distinguishing from my Leahy's.

         Making progress on the Glenns/Glinns/Glynns issue, too.  I've collected a list of all the Killarney RC marriages from 1792 to the 1839, and it is clear that Glenns/Glinns/Glynns are all variation of one place in Killarney parish.  I also compared those records with the Tithe Applotment records and the Griffiths Valuation, and it is clear that this place is not the same as Glen Killaha, which is what I thought earlier.   The place that was listed as Glenns/Glinns/Glynns was apparently located in the vicinity of Faghcullia and Minish, but I'm not sure exactly where.  The name Glenns/Glinns/Glynns must have fallen into misuse between the 1830's and the 1850's (time of Griffiths Valuation).  Interestingly, I did not seem the name Minish mentioned in the early records, so it is possible that Glenns/Glinns/Glynns or portion of it became Minish over time.  I'm not sure about the history there.   I might try to find someone at Trinity College library to see if there is any clues on this topic.

       Thanks so much again for your assistance - you saved me from pursuing an incorrect line of research!

       Joe