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Re: Gyspy Surname
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 September 09 19:26 BST (UK) »
DNA testing is not everyone's cup of tea and i understand that.  I did a test with don Lock's project and one of the great surprises is the amount of people who carry the Gypsy gene and don't know it.  It is rarer on the female side (up to yet) because gypsy men have always married out.  I was somewhat surprised to find that my smith line went back to India.  Had I done the female line, my Boswell Mum had a Rafferty mother so I would hasard a guess that a test would have shown European roots.

I now get e-mails from people all over the world desperate for an explanation as to why they have an Indian root when they only have european ancestry in living memory.  Just shows how many got deported.

Non of this replaces good old fashioned family research but I find it interesting anyway.

That book sounds right up my street Rodger, I'll be getting it soon . :)

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 27 September 09 09:54 BST (UK) »
Could I have the link to An65's website please?

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 27 September 09 13:12 BST (UK) »
Had I done the female line, my Boswell Mum had a Rafferty mother so I would hasard a guess that a test would have shown European roots.



  ??? One moment, please. This is where my head starts to hurt.

Boswell is about as Romani as it gets. So, there's India. Right? Rafferty? Ireland? Ok. Now it's Europe instead. But, where does that end? What if Rafferty (for the purposes of keeping it clear what I'm trying to express) was born of Kawazaki? Then we're in the Far East. And, if Kawazaki just happened to be from an Eskimo mother ....?

 My point being; If Rafferty over writes Boswell? Where does that pattern stop? Surely it must go back to 'year dot' and the very original female. And she might have stemmed from who knows where.


 Taking a more personal approach to it? My G.Gran is said to have been born in Devon. But, she's also 'said to' have been a Pavee ~ by blood. My Mum and Gran were both born in england. So, does Gran's blood win out in all this, over Mums? Seems so.

 But that excludes the potential for G.Gran's alleged blood. And, even if that is Pavee? It'd still come back as Neolithic Mainland British?  ???

 This whole thing really does make my head spin. Is there anywhere one can read a very simple explanation of all this? Written slowly. In big letters  :-\
GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 27 September 09 15:26 BST (UK) »
My suggestion buy the book I mentioned earlier, it clarified very many things for me about our origins. Well worth a read, it was good value in Hard Back, and I believe it's now in paperback too.
"Origins of the British" Stephen Openheimer
Ayres Brignell Cornwell Harvey Shipp  Stimpson Stubbings (all Cambs) Baumber Baxter Burton Ethards Proctor Stanton (all Lincs) Luffman (all counties)


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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 27 September 09 16:29 BST (UK) »
 Cheers, RedRoger. On its way from Amazon right now  ;)
GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 27 September 09 16:31 BST (UK) »
Steve, (And any other purchaser) Enjoy!!
Ayres Brignell Cornwell Harvey Shipp  Stimpson Stubbings (all Cambs) Baumber Baxter Burton Ethards Proctor Stanton (all Lincs) Luffman (all counties)

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 20:52 BST (UK) »
hello
PETERS is a gyspy name..
we were chimney sweeps in Hampshire..upto when my grandad died..no other member carried on lol..

trying to find out when we came to UK  ..wewere in WILTSHIRE at on time..

jenny

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 02 October 09 15:19 BST (UK) »

"Origins of the British" Stephen Openheimer


 :o Dear god! It's just arrived; All Six Hundred Plus Pages! This one should keep me going for a while .....
GAITES (Alverstoke / Bath Pre 1850)
CURTIS (Portsmouth & 1800's Berkshire).
BURGE (Dorset, Somerset and Hampshire)
HUNTLEY (Dorset, Hampshire, Sussex, 'Surroundings')

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« Reply #26 on: Friday 02 October 09 15:36 BST (UK) »
hello
what has arrived..

jenny