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Medal Card
« on: Wednesday 12 August 09 19:43 BST (UK) »
Is anyone familiar with reading medal cards.?
This one belongs to my great grand-uncle and I
need help in interpreting the details

Thanks,

Robert Forrest

Mod edit....

Sorry due to copyright only partial copies allowed....Have edited down to such  ;) ;D

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 20:08 BST (UK) »
There is another card for him, but I can only see it on National Archives.
It is for the Military Medal Award alluded to on this MIC.

This card is for the award of the British War & Victory Medals.

He first saw overseas service some time in 1916 with the 8th Battalion London Regiment.
At sometime he transferred to the 17th Battalion.
The six figure numbers were issued in early 1917. As his MM appears to be inscribed 8th Bn, but the card is in the later number, I would guess he transferred some time in 1917.

http://www.1914-1918.net/london.htm for the London Regiment.

He should be listed in the London Gazette, but there are no citations for the MM.

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 20:09 BST (UK) »
Lost his MM and it was returned by police in 1928....He was a Territorial Soldier.

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 20:26 BST (UK) »


Thanks folks, very helpful,

Would it be worth my while getting his MIC from the National Archives
site?

He was a postman so I think he may have been signed up with the Post
Office Rifles part of the London Regiment?



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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 21:15 BST (UK) »
http://www.naval-military-press.com/history-of-the-post-office-rifles-8th-battalion-city-of-london-pr-17304.html

Theres a History of Post Office Rifles.....They were 8th Batt London Regiment so spot on there. :)

His MM MIC will give you the LG date and his Battalion but nothing else...Worth having to complete the history ...they arent on ancestry yet so it will cost £2
MM s dont have citations but he may have awrite up in local paper

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 22:09 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to his entry in the London Gazette:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31227/pages/3440

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 22:11 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to his entry in the London Gazette:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31227/pages/3440


If you backtrack from this

P3415
His Majesty the.KING has.been.graciously
pleased to approve of the award of the Military
Medal for bravery in the Field to the, undermentioned
Warrant Officers, Non-Commissioned
Officers and Men: —

page 3438
London Regiment

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 August 09 09:15 BST (UK) »


My thanks to Phil, Ady & Linda for your kind help.

I will make a search of the local newspaper to see if I can find out
more.

Rob

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 October 09 20:45 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

It would be worth getting hold of the actual medal roll for Robert as the dates of his overseas service should be included.  You will need to either visit TNA or use a researcher as the rolls are original documents.  The staff at TNA do not always advise you to get the rolls, but sometimes they contain useful information.  Normally this is limited to a battalion number where the soldier was a member of an infantry unit (Cheshire Regiment etc).  This does not usually happen when a man was in the Artillery or one of the Corps.

The rolls were originally produced by the various military record offices and intended to show overeseas service.  Each record office reference begins with a letter, but only those that begin TP/ bothered to fill this in.  If you can not find his papers this is better than nothing.

Hope this helps

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