Mary or possibley Marion Barclay

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James Reid & Christian Anderson.
Within the census records for the three declared family members of the
couple, i.e., David, William & Mary, [are these the only children born to
this couple?]though the age birth and place is stated I can only find one
birth recorded; that of David Reid. Not unusual, but is his birth being
recorded twice?
•   David Reid, Birth recorded as 3rd June 1846 to James Reid
        & Christian Anderson, Dull, Perth.
•   David Reid, Birth recorded 16th June 1846 to James Reid
        & Christian Anderson, Fortingall, Perth.
If the same couple what is the logical reason? The first obvious thought
was that there were two James Reid & Christian Anderson.
The point does not affect the final outcome concluded, i.e. James Reid’s recorded
death and origins. Curious though. Any thoughts out there?

Thanks

[normruttan]

Hello again Jlonge,
     This is the James Reid more likely to be the James who emigrated. I'll start with 1851 Scotland Census & you can compare it with 1861 Canadian Census. The Canadian Census is a gem of a find because it lists all the family, including family absent from home. Took me a long time to track it down and I'm glad you could confirm that it is James Reid & Margaret Crichton.

     1851 SCOTLAND CENSUS. Crook of Devon, Fossoway & Tulliebole, Kinross-shire, Scotland.
          James Reid   37 Farm Servant b Fossoway, Kinross-shire.
          Mary? Reid   34 Wife               b Cockpen, Edinburgh.
          Marion Reid  10 Dau               b Fossoway, Kinross-shire.
          Henry Reid    8 Son                b Dunfermline, Fife.
          Peter Reid     6 Son                b Dunfermline, Fife.
          James Reid   4 Son                 b Aberdour, Fife.
          Jane Reid      2 Dau                b Fossoway, Kinross-shire.
          Margret Reid 8 Mo. Dau          b Fossoway, Kinross-shire.

     1861 CANADIAN CENSUS. Kenyon, Glengarry, Canada West, Canada.
          James  Read    48 Labourer b Scotland.
          Margaret Read 45       -       b Scotland.
          Mini  Read       21       -       b Scotland.  (Absent. At S. Canada)
          Henry Read     19       -       b Scotland.  (Absent. At Locheil)
          Peter Read      17       -       b Scotland.  (Absent. At S. Canada)
          James Read     15       -      b Scotland.   (Absent. At Locheil)
          Jane  Read      13       -       b Scotland.   (Absent. At Locheil)
          Margaret Read 11      -       b Scotland.
          Elisabeth Read  7       -       b Scotland.
          Agnes  Read     6       -       b Scotland.  (Family member??)
          John  Read       2      -        b U.C. (Upper Canada)

     My grand children have just come home from school so will post more information tonight once peace reigns again!
               Regards,     Dod.

     
     

     

         

     

This is the Reid family who emigrated to Upper Canada and ended up in the Kaladar area north of Kingston, Ontario.

My great-grandfather Robert Abbott from Kingston, Ontario married Marion Reid. Their daughter Katherine Carscallen Abbott married my grandfather Charles Hamilton Scott Ruttan (Loyalist Family from New Jersey who came to Canada in 1785).

Jane Reid is buried either in my family's private cemetery near Northbrook, Ontario or at Flinton, Ontario with her husband Abraham Allport. Marion Reid-Abbott is buried in the family cemetery near Northbrook, Ontario.

I can be contacted at norm@n*rmruttan.com for more information on the James Reid family of Scotland-Canada, including the family farm location, and their private family graveyard which my family keeps up.

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An Archive Link for those who are descended from "James Reid", son of
Henry Reid, and not descended from David Reid & Marion Barclay.

archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com › PERTHSHIRE › 2000-04

It may be known of and accessed already, but in case it has not I post


 

[LizD]

For those interested, details of death certificate of David Reid:

David Reid, Labourer, Widower of Mary Ann Barclay
Death 4 June 1864   11.30A.M.   Scotlandwell Portmoak Kinross
Age 69 Years
Father:   WILLIAM REID, Farmservant (Deceased)
Mother:   JEAN REID M.S. Paton  (Deceased)
Inflammation of the Lungs
Informant:   Andrew Reid, son (present)

[whaap]

Hi LizD,

Thomas Reid, born 11th May 1839 to David Reid & Mary Barclay, Portmoak. Kinross,
was the informant on David Reid’s D.C.

The posting of May 21st 2013 declares “Thomas”.
The posting of October 13th 2015 declares “Andrew”

May I ask why a later change to name of informant on David Reid’s D.C. of 1864?

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[LizD]

Name of informant on David Reid's death certificate 1864 should read son Thomas informant not Andrew

[furzey21]

Hi I am currently trying to trace back along the barclay line from the same area as my grandmother was related in some way.

[Grierson]

I am researching the Reid family who lived on the Aldie Estate, Fossoway. Also maybe the Oswald family and Robertson family all related somehow.
Did you manage to find out any information in your research of the ancestry that lived at Aldie.

I have a John Reid married to Grizel Robertson
Had three children
Henry 11.10.1793 to 02.04.1806
James 05.04.1796 to 01.08.1823
John 04.06.1798 to 02.04.1880 - he Married Ann Archibald Born 21.04.1809 Died 12.03.1881

The Father and three children all buried at Fossoway Churchyard.
Father (John) has his date of death as 02.04.1801 on gravestone but can not find his birth or his marriage.

Does any of this fit in with your research?

[LizD]

Hi Grierson,

The following may be of interest to you and anyone else researching the Reid family living on the Aldie Estate, Fossoway.

I found an online newspaper article on the Australian website Trove. The article is in the Newcastle Morning Herald + Miners' Advocate, dated 19 January 1887.

The article refers to Mr John Reid, native of the parish of Fossoway, Perthshire, living in Canada. His residence for many years had been on the 'Aldes Estate' (as written in article)  'Aldie Estate' in Perthshire, where his "forebears" his maternal ancestors had been since A.D. 1250. These maternal ancestors where named Robertson and had occupied the farm of East Hilton.

Trove is a free website and all articles can be viewed in full online. I have added the links below :-

website link -           https://trove.nla.gov.au/

article link -

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/138813518?searchTerm=%22mr%20john%20reid%22%20fossoway