Convict? Mary CURRIE nee ROSS

[Eupham]

Hi Jenn,

Yes, I have the details of most of the children she had with William playle.

[judb]

There is a mention of the Will and claimants for the estate of William Playle on the National Library's digitsed newspapers site.

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/correction/3424139

Nothing new probably if you have the children's details already.

Judith

[krisesjoint]

Hi Eupham,

I have not been able to find anything on William ROSS - no sign of a marriage, no sign of a birth for Margaret and no death for William.

I wondered about the young couple who watched out for her on the ship as we often find it is a brother or brother in law who has taken responsibility for an unwed girl. I couldn't find anything further on them, no births, deaths etc but I did find just 2 months later in both the Vic and NSW Government Gazettes.

Water Police Office 15 Apr 1842

Notice is hereby given that the usual licences of departures were this day granted to the following persons viz: Walter ANDERSON to proceed in the barge SARAH BOTSFORD, bound to Sincapore, and Colonel SLOANE K S F to proceed in the barge LOUISA, bound to Guam, agreeable to the 10th section of the Act of Council 4 Victoria, No 17

H H BROWNE J.P (Superintendent of Water Police)

I note it is the same ship Mary and the Andersons arrived on.

On board the ship with Mary - no parental details were listed for them.
Walter was 19 a native of Lanark (Blacksmith) Discharged to Barracks)
Margaret his wife 18 a native of Haddington (House Servant)


Re Playle I note a report re daughter Rebecca - the victim of a rape in 1873.

NSW Police Gazette 15 Oct 1873

Apprehensions

Richard RUSSELL charged on warrant with committing a rape on the person of Rebecca PLAYLE has been arrested by the Queensland Police. Remanded to Warialda. Committed for trial at Tamworth Circuit Court and discharged.

Cheers Kris  

[Eupham]

Hi Kris

Rebecca would have only been 13 when she was raped. Her father died 4 years earlier and the girls spent a lot of their childhood on large cattle stations.

[Bob22]

Hi Euphem,
I have a little info on Mary Currie. She was a bounty girl and a Mrs Grant of Parramatta chose her at 18 pounds a year with rations. I have husband 1 as Andrew Ross. Most likely married him in Australia around 1846 as Margaret was born 25th Jan 1847 and baptised at St Phillips Church Sydney 13 March 1847.Margaret died 18th March 1925 at The Home Of Peace Hospital Marrickville Sydney.Husband no 2 was William Playle my ancestor who she married 1st July 1856 at Yambercollie. I have four children for them,Mary Jane ( my ancestor ), Rebecca Catherine, Amelia Ann and Rachel. Husband no 3 was George William King who she married in 1874. Mary died 2nd Feb 1881 at 3 Geddes St Warialda NSW. Her brother John was born 7 Feb 1824 in Lanark Shire Scotland. He died 19th May 1909 in Inverell. I have a birth date for Mary as 1824 also but in Catton Glasgow Scotland. This information comes from research by my late mother in law.Hope this helps.
Regards Bob22

[Eupham]

Hi Bob,

Thanks so much for that. You have given me a lot of info to add to my tree. One question though, what is a bounty girl? Does this mean she was not the Mary Currie that came out on the SARAH BOTSFORD?

Cheers
Eupham 

[Bob22]

Hi Eupham, A bounty girl were girls sent out by the government as servents. Potential employers met the ship and picked out who they wanted. She did arrive on the Sarah Botsford 15th Feb 1842. She sailed from Greenock 12th Oct 1841. In case you don't have it William Playle's parents were Joseph Playle ( Plail ) and Rebecca Saville married 2nd June 1820 Parish of Halstead County of Essex England. Joseph was born 9th Dec 1788 at St Marys Bocking England. Joseph's father was also Joseph and his mother Ann Turner. The Warialda Historic Society book states that William Playle went to the Blue Coat School in England and came as a free settler. This is not true. He was convicted 23rd May 1837 for stealing a quantity of coins from his grandfather Thomas Saville. He was sentenced to 7 years and arrived Sydney Cove on the Bengal Merchant.
He served 4 years at Moreton Bay and was granted his ticket of leave dated 12th Dec 1842. William buried all his papers so that his history was hidden. There is also a family story that he came from the line of Lord Saville. This also is untrue.I have more on his descendants so if you let me know your line I may have info you don't have.
Regards,
Bob22

[genmom711]

Hi Euphem,
Husband no 2 was William Playle my ancestor who she married 1st July 1856 at Yambercollie. I have four children for them,Mary Jane ( my ancestor ), Rebecca Catherine, Amelia Ann and Rachel.
Regards Bob22

Greetings Bob,

Your posting to Euphem, helped clear up the relationship question I had on Amelia Ann. Thank you for that information. Another hypothesis I had on William was that he was the same individual that arrived on the Bengal Merchant in 1838. Another detail confirmed with your post.
There are a few Playle individuals that I am wondering if you can shed any light on .

The first is re: Samuel Playle, an ind. also sentenced to seven years (is that a standard length for certain crimes?), he was shipped off on theee 29th , July 1837 on the Susan. Arriving at Van Diemen's land. Do you know of any details on Samuel and who his parents and or siblings may be? The same question for Joseph Playle (Plail).


I know Amelia Ann married Edwin Shepard Doherty in 1887.
My research  shows two different marriage years on BDM indexes for her parents, Mary Ross and William Playle. One for 1859 and the other 1856. I am thinking the year 1856 to correct for this couple, can you confirm that? I believe the aforementioned ladies had a brother William; who was born in 1872 and died in 1872. Source from the NSW BDM; do you have knowledge of him?

Thank you in advance for assistance that you may be able to provide and to the other posters who shared helpful details on this subject.
This is my first posting to Roots Chat, please excuse any misstep I may have committed.

[Bob22]

Hi Genmom711,
Edwin Shepherd Doherty married Amelia Ann Playle 28th Dec 1887 at St Simon's and St Judes R C Church in Warialda' I have nine children for them. If you don't have them let me know.William Playle and Mary Currie
( Ross ) were married  in Yambercollie 1st July 1856. I have nothing on Samuel Playle and the only info on the two Joseph Playles you'll find in a previous posting. I have no record of William 1872. You'll find the other siblings I have in a previous posting.
Regards,
Bob22