COMPLETED: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire

[cello]

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I am looking for any information on Molly Richings, possibly born 1914, from Aston-On-Carrant, Gloucestershire and after her marriage, from Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire.

WHAT I KNOW:   

The Molly I am looking for was the daughter of:
Frank Edward RICHINGS, born 30-Nov-1876 at Kingswood, near Wotton-Under-Edge, GLS
and Bertha KING, born app. 1881 in Loughborough, Essex, the daughter of George KING.

Frank and Bertha married on 22-June-1910 at Wotton-Under-Edge, GLS

On the 1911 Census Frank and Bertha are living in Ambala, India and Frank is a Sergeant with the Royal Horse Artillery  based in Ambala, Punjab, India

I have the birth certificates for three children born in Ambala, of which 2 died at, or soon after, birth.

The third child born to Frank and Bertha was:

Marion Adeline RICHINGS born 18-May-1914

I think that Marion is possible the Molly I am looking for.

I have two letters in my family papers, both undated.

The first is written by Frank Richings to his brother Charles and the personalised headed paper is from Carrant Poultry Farm, Aston-On-Carrant, Glos and the relevant section is:
“Molly has left school and we have apprenticed her to the Haridressing etc, in Cheltenham”. 
If we assume that Molly is Marion Adeline and that she is 14-17 years of age, then the letter was written between 1928 and 1931.

The second letter is written by Charlotte Wentworth (nee Richings), Frank’s sister, to her daughter and states:
“I just wondered if you knew Molly (Frank’s Girl) she is now married and lives at Tewkesbury, married a policeman … and they have one child …. I do not know if it is a boy or girl”
The only clue I can pinpoint in this letter is that it was written before August 1944.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW:
Was Marion Adeline Richings known as Molly Richings, or was there another daughter?
Who did Molly Richings marry?

Any help would be most appreciated.

CW

[osprey]

pming you some info in case people are still alive...

[ChasH]

CW,

No direct help but Marion/Marian was originally a diminutive of Mary.  Later diminutives of Mary include Moll and Molly.

Regards

Chas

[cello]

Thanks Osprey for the information you supplied via PM - looks spot on! Neither entry appears in FBMD.

I will get certs just to be sure.  We do appear to have 2 Molly Richings in this 'wonderful' family.

Thanks also to ChasH.  Sort of the lines I was working along but some of my other assumptions in this family have been a bit wrong.  One family included two sons - one called Harold and one called Harry!!

Regards
CW

[ChasH]

CW,

Ah, but Harry is a diminutive of Henry so that might heve been his baptismal name.

Chas

[ishtat]

Just a small point Cello but is the reference to Bertha King being born in Loughborough correct?

The only Loughborough I know is in Leicestershire and neither Google Earth nor Dove has that place name in Essex

[cello]

Hi Ishtat

I see what you mean!!!

I don't know anything at all about Bertha King.  Her residence on marriage certificate is the same as Franks - The Ridings, Wotton-U-Edge. Her father was George King (deceased), Contractor

On the 1911C when they are in Ambala, India the birthplace details are:
Loughboro, Essex, England

Suspect someone got it wrong!

But I don't have anything else and I can't find her on the 1901 or 1891C.  On marriage certificate she was 29 years old, so born about 1881.

Cello 

[osprey]

have you looked at the original of the 1911 census or are you relying on the transcript?
I can see a vague possibility in St Pancras in 1901 with George Henry King father of Zol(?) Berthe aged 17 born in India RG13/151 folio 6 pg 4.

 

[cello]

Hi Osprey

Thanks for your reply.

Yes I got the information off the original - I've given up on transcripts! I have posted dozens of requests for amendments to transcriptions - so far they have all been successfully changed which I gather from other peoples experiences is not that common.

It is very clearly written and no doubt that it is 'Loughboro, Essex, England'.  However, I think that in this case it probably was not completed by the person. It is a military entry and all the writing is the same, so a military clerk probably completed it.

I don't have any reason to think that Bertha wasn't born in the UK.  The only reason she is in India on the Census is because her husband was in the Royal Horse Artillery based at that time in India.

Regards
Cello