Boatman/Lighterman records

[Treetotal]

Hi Steven & Maud,
I have Waterman in my tree too...!
Carol

[Valda]

Hi

Could it be Harlington? In which case just Google 'Bulls Bridge'.

Regards

Valda

[louisa maud]

Actually I suspect it is Harlington but I took it from the census,

Thank you both Valda and Treetotal

Louisa Maud

[Joybruin]

Hi Louisa

Bulls Bridge is in on the borders of Hayes and Southall in Middlesex.  There is a Bulls Bridge Public House right on the canal.

Joy

[MARIA LOUISA]

Hello Steven
I believe we are descended from the same stock.
Ambrose commenced his appreticeship on the 12/06/1866 at Brentford with John Clark and it was completed on the 13/08/1872.
Regards
Maria Louisa
 

[Steven1314]

Thanks Maria Louisa I have sent you a PM to find out what you mean by same stock.  I received Ambrose's death certificate during the week.  He died in 1887 aged 40 of  malignant jaundice.  Not sure exactly what that is.  I tried to search for it online but it hasn't helped.

I also have his birth certificate and have him on every census.  I think because he doesn't have a common name that it has made it easier.  My other English ancestors have the name Smith so that hasn't been too easy.  Although my great grandfather and great great grandfather are both called Solomon and I have managed to find out a little on them but it has been really difficult.

Steven

[MARIA LOUISA]

Hello Steven,
I'm afraid I can't send you a personal message at the moment as my reply to your query was the first time I have used this website and I understand I have to make three postings before I can use the personal messaging service.
I came across the site quite by accident as I was looking for references to Ambrose Stokes as his name was more unusual than other menbers of the Stokes family. Most of the family seemed to be connected with the water, be they watermen, lightermen, bargemen or fishermen. I obtained the info from a cd which lists mainly the apprenticeship bindings between 1692 and 1949 but the only info shown is what I mentioned in my previous posting.
I am descended from Ambrose's sister Susanna.
Regards
Maria Louisa   

[Steven1314]

Thanks Maria Louisa can't believe I have come across someone on a forum who has a common ancestor.  I don't know what you know or don't know but Ambrose's father was Samuel Stokes and his mother was Sarah Nixon (I think its Nixon but can't be sure from quality of Ambrose's birth certificate).  I don't know if you can check from your CD to see if you come across Samuel.

I was on another forum and they found Samuel under the following

Samuel Stokes bound 13/08/1829 to Henry Perry at Strand On Green.

I take it that you found reference to Ambrose on a census when looking for your ancestor Susanna?  I found Ambrose on the 1861 census and the 1871 census and also 1881 census.  Did you manage to find him on the 1851 census.  I had no luck finding the 1851 census which I thought would have given more information on Ambrose's parents and siblings.

Do you know anything else on Samuel or Sarah or even any more information on them going further back.  I know that when Ambrose was born in 1845 his parents were living in New Brentford as that is listed on the birth certificate.

Any more information you can give me would be great

Steven

[MARIA LOUISA]

Hello Steven
You are correct in saying that Ambrose's parents were Samuel Stokes and Sarah Nixon. The only early census that I found them on was the 1841. They were living with Sarah's parents, James Nixon and Susannah (possibly Morrill or Merrell? I'm not absolutely sure about her surname.) and their children Lucy and an un-named child who I later found was named William despite being listed on the census as a girl together with Samuel's brother George, also a lighterman. The two children plus another named Samuel who was born in 1841 all died within weeks of one another in 1842.
I also have the baptism date for Ambrose, it was 25/12/1845 at St. Lawrence, New Brentford.
Regards
Maria Louisa