CARROLL- HARTIGAN -Limerrick-Australia

[Mary Bawden]

My Great  Grandfather was John Moloney, who along with Patrick and Edmund Moloney sailed to South Australia on the "Charlotte Jane" in 1852. They were written up as Carroll's, on the ship's list.
John Carroll and Mary Carroll both aged 36 as parents.. so Mary Carroll must previously been married to a Moloney. Together they had Thomas and Mary. Edmund became a lay brother and is buried in the crypt at Seven Hills South Australia.

[Elaine D]

Hello Mary, In my previous posts to CARROLL- HARTIGAN I've told the story of my research thus far on the Carroll's. How did you find information on the MOLONEY'S and their tie in to the CARROLL family? Maybe this isn't my family and it is just a quirk of fate that lead me to a Maria in Limerick. I started looking at passenger lists to South Australia because I know that she was in the Adelaide area because that's where she married John Taylor and had three children.I have all the records to support these events from St. Patrick's. I really didn't know where to look for her in Ireland. The church records in Effin, Limerick have a record for Maria Carroll and the birth date is the same that I have from her baptism along with the same parent names that are on her death certificate, John Carroll and Johanna Hartigan.
I guess if this were easy it wouldn't any fun but it would be nice to get answers that fills in some blanks once in awhile. Hope to hear from you, Bunny [Elaine Taylor Ryczek]

[Mary Bawden]

Mary Carroll who came out on the Charlotte Jane was a 2nd wife to John Carroll, because her boys Patrick,John, and Edmund were Moloney's, but listed on the ship's passenger list a Carroll's.

[Mary Bawden]

a friend was researching her "Barry" family.  My Great Grandfather John Moloney,(born Limerick Ireland 1838, died Maitland South Australia May 23rd 1923.)  son of John who came out from Ireland , married Mary Barry. she knew the original John had come from Ireland but could find no record of his arrival in SA, until I told her re the "Carroll" connection.

[Mary Bawden]

re the Hartigan name in the title.   My Great Uncle Patrick Moloney, MSC, missionary of the Sacred Heart was a great friend of Patrick Joseph Hartigan, "John O'Brien" author of "Around the Boree Log".  He would visit the Moloney family who lived on the Yorke Peninsula sometimes, and the poem "The Old Mass Shandrydan" is supposedly about them arriving at Mass with chooks(Fowls, chickens) aboard as well. At Narranderah NSW's every March is a festival celebrating Msg Hartigan. My grandmother Marie(Mary?) Kenny, was married to  Daniel Hanrahan - wonder if there is a connection to where "We'll all be ruined! said Hanrahan" comes from.

[Mary Bawden]

Great! Grand Mother that should read.

[Mary Bawden]

I have a letter written to my Aunt in 1981 from Margaret Moloney (she married Maurice  Honner and when he died, a Fitzgerald -known as Madge, who was the daughter of Thomas J. Moloney a son of the John who came out from Ireland in 1852. TJ Moloney  moved from Maitland SA to Junee in NSW. Patrick also moved to New South Wales. Madge  would have known  her Grandfather Moloney.

[Mary Bawden]

The ships passenger list of the "Charlotte Jane", leaving from London/Plymouth October 1851 ad arriving in Adelaide 14th of January 1852, list John and Mary Carroll - both 36, John as being born in Limerick. Children listed are Patrick 17, John 16, (his death notice states that he too was born in Limerick Ireland in1838, died on 1923 aged 85) Edmund, 13. (under the name of Carroll. but were Moloney's.) Johanna 13, and Edmund 13?? Maria 5 and Thomas 3. Thomas Carroll was ordained as a Jesuit priest. He died in Adelaide in 1938. His sister Mary Carroll married Thomas Horgan. my Great Grandfather John, married Mary Barry and they had 14/16? children. some died early or in infancy.

[Mary Bawden]

Thomas Carroll was born in Ireland 1848, one of the early boys at Sevenhill entered the Jesuit order and was ordained in 1880. He died in Adelaide in 1838. I have visited the crypt of the St Aloysius Church at Sevenhill in the Claire Valley of Sth Aus where Brother Edmund Moloney is buried.